Don't pay any attention to anti fram filter folks. Its just a dozen or so that respond, now if 12,000 members responded, then u would have some statistical data to run through the formulas, but without 5k to 10k responses, it does not hold water, Ps, been driving since the 60s, never lost an engine due to oil filter failure. But I have lost the whole car when forgetting where I parked at the Mall.lol old timers disease, I think.