I run Winterforce tires on the van in the winter months, so snow and ice performance is not required for a set of summer tires for me. I wanted another set of Michelin HydroEdge, which is what I had on my last van, a Dodge Grand Caravan. They were great tires, especially in rain. However, the Honda Odyssey takes a bigger tire, (265X65R-16) and HydroEdge are not available in that size. So I am looking for a good rain/touring tire substitute for the Michelins. Looking at the specs and the surveys on Tire Rack, these Altimax RTs look like a good tire for the money. Thanks much for the replies.