Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: UG_Passat
Compared to the Nokian Hakka RSi... in the snow it was transparent. When it is not snowing... the Generals were extremely squirmy. The Nokians, despite the heavy siping, weren't really squirmy.
What size were you running?
does it really matter? In case it does... 205/55r16 on the Nokians. 205/50r17 on the Generals.
So... with a bigger sidewall on the Nokians plus they are Low Rolling Resistance..... they are more stable. the lateral stability is actually something they advertise on their 2010 or 2011 winter tire infomercial posted on youtube.
Originally Posted By: leeharvey418
Being in North 'Jersey, the Hakkapelitta R (replacement of the RSi) is probably more winter tire than you really need. Unless you're driving inland to go skiing or something, the Nokian WR G2 or any of the Performance Winter tires on the market would probably suit your needs better than a full-on winter tire that's not so great on just wet or dry pavement.
We don't drive inland to go skiing as conditions in the Poconos aren't really much better. If we want better skiing conditions, we drive northeast. And we already have some skiing areas left in North Jersey (more like hills, not mountains).
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: leeharvey418
Being in North 'Jersey, the Hakkapelitta R (replacement of the RSi) is probably more winter tire than you really need. Unless you're driving inland to go skiing or something, the Nokian WR G2 or any of the Performance Winter tires on the market would probably suit your needs better than a full-on winter tire that's not so great on just wet or dry pavement.
I would agree with you
IF I were driving an AWD/FWD low powered/low numerically gear ratioed car.
THIS car
needs MUCH MORE traction (370+ hp/torque
to the wheels, 3.73 axle ratio, 54/46 weight ditribution) to go up a snowy/icy incline than the high performance, H rated winter rubber could ever possibly muster, EVEN brand new.
How do I know this, you ask? My current winter setup is Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2s on the stock snowflake alloys.
Like you've stated; GREAT on cold, dry pavement, all but useless on snowy/icy inclines.
That being said, I would be willing to try the WR G2s over the Rs
IF I could be money back
guaranteed in writing that they have MORE bite than the BEST OF the rest of the H rated hi-po winter donuts out there.
So, you're the one fishtailing on I-287 last year in the christmas snowstorm???? I remember having to dodge one during the snow storm on I-287 north around Basking Ridge. Driving uphill in the snow is better for a RWD car, as the weight is shifted to the drive wheels going up a hill.
and.. I was running Hankook Icebear W300 last winter (and soon to be this winter)...because my budget last year for new snows couldn't afford Nokians and I didn't want the too squirmy Generals again....and I wanted some grip when it wasn't snowing...