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Originally posted by vad:
{snip}And if YOU follow the above-cited thread down, you'll see what Terry had to say on testing:
"I am having great difficulty with getting a Mass Spec testing source I can trust and we can afford. Either they are labs owned by "entrenched" interests or too costly."
Ekpolk, since no in-depth testing will be done, at least not in the near future, I don't see any point discussing the Gold formula with you.
You're dead set on the inferiority theory of the Gold regardless of the available evidence.
And since the only test that could possibly change your mind remains unavailable, you will continue to exhibit your dissatisfaction with GC as being "the real thing".
O.K.
At least you've made yourlself perfectly clear.
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Originally posted by vad:
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Originally posted by Vspec:
I mean its not the same oil, if it was, it wouldn't be gold, it wouldnt be different and it would be from germany, which its not.
Gold GC is from Germany, bottled in the exactly the same bottle as Green GC, conforms to the exactly the same specs, or even a little better.
That actually was the source of a big confusion because there's no way to tell the Green GC bottle from the Gold one without opening up the bottle or checking and knowing the differences in the batch numbers.
It's largely believed on this board that GC is SLX.
There is no evidence to prove it otherwise. If you have any please post in this thread.
Vad:
Look, I don't care whether or not you want to discuss it or not, but it is you who don't have your facts straight. I will now straighten. I have been up and down that thread, more than once. If you'd ponied up some cash like those of us who got in on the program, you would know that the testing ultimately
was done, and those of us who were in very much got what we paid for. Just because we're still looking and more testing has yet to be done does not mean it won't. Why do you think that the half of the money is still sitting there?
Now if you're content to
assume that it's the same stuff, that's up to you. I'm not.
You also state, incorrectly, that I am "dead set on the inferiority theory of the Gold regardless of the available evidence."
Please quote for us exactly where I said gold was inferior. I am very pleased with the performance of green, and I sincerely
hope that gold is as good or better. So far, we've got a handful of good UOAs, similar yet
different VOA[/B][/I], and that's it.
You also state that, ". . .since the only test that could possibly change your mind remains unavailable, you will continue to exhibit your dissatisfaction with GC as being "the real thing". Wrong again. I asked Bruce (because I do trust him...) to offer a bit more info on the IR testing he mentioned. I hope this is as good as suggested.
You also say, "Gold GC
is from Germany, bottled in the exactly the
same bottle as Green GC, conforms to the exactly the same specs, or even a little better." All true. So what? What I really care about is the oil. Not the bottle, not where it came from, not the specs (well, I care about them a little). But to repeat, I care about the oil inside the bottle. And every bit of
evidence (versus speculation) we have so far indicates that while gold is similar,
it's just not the same stuff.
By the way, you can distinguish green and gold GC without opening the bottle, or resorting to looking at the batch number. You just have to get it in the right light and look carefully at the narrow clear "window" that runs down the side of the bottle. The green sheen, or the lack of it, is detectable through it.
I am well aware that many here believe green GC to be SLX. I've followed that argument for a long time too, and in the end, I'm not particularly moved by it either way. SLX is good stuff, so is green GC, and the gold seems to have promise. Your point was what?
In the end, what you can't get around is that this new form of Syntec 0w-30
is different from our old friend green GC. How different is the question. You seem to think like a transmission without "Neutral". You have to believe in the stuff and just can't wait to be convinced. I'm still in "neutral", no more, no less. I'm not, as you put it, "dead set" at all, either way.
I trust that I have now indeed made myself perfectly clear. It would be nice if you'd do the same.