50k mi with no OCI

[oilboy123]

He is asking for advice for his friend. That means calling his friend stupid is not real cool.
In fact because he is not informed does not make him stupid. Come on guys.

So who on this board has never had a time in their life that they were not fully informed on a subject?

Then screwed something up because of that lack of knowledge.

Not everyone in the world learned to change their oil as a toddler!

 

[Brett Miller]

That is true oilboy BUT anyone capable of driving and owning a car is capable of reading the owner's manual.

 

[beanoil]

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first you should smack your friend for taking advice from a salesman. second you should smack your friend for being dumb, third you should smack your friend and tell him to just sell that one and get another car.... oh and smack your friend and tell him next time to change the ---- oil jeesh..

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Nope, go to the root of the problem. In this case it is a sit down with the sales person, the owner of the dealership, and the regional rep.
Every new car delivery should involve a personal demonstration of the car's features,an introduction to the service manager and a review of the owners manual, which, if had been done, would have revealed the proper maintenance schedule for that vehicle. The sales person screwed the pooch on that one. If the customer listened to his bovine scat about the OCI, he probably would have listened to a statement about bringing the car back every 5k for regular service. The dealership lost, the customer lost, and the salesperson needs to repurchase that car from the individual out of his own pocket. Of course, this will only happen in my world, and I'm the only one apparently that lives here.

 

[Panzerman]

Id trade it and yes stick somebody else with it, the dealership. I sell cars out right if they dont have any problems, but if I got to "DUMP" the car it goes on a trade, then its the dealers problem, which they in turn auction it off. Really though, my then girlfriend, now wife, went 30,000 miles on a oil change in a 1989 Chevy Z24 and did no noticable damage, on a Fram oil filter to boot. She drove the car another year without any problems.

 

[KW]

Surely the car came with a owners manual. It would have been helpful if he would have taken a few minutes to read it.

Maybe a flush with Gunk engine flush would help, but it my also make things worse. I'd lean more to just changing the oil and filter first and see if it cures the oil light problem. If it does then either do a few 500 mile OCI's with cheapo 10W30 or start a ARX treatment.

 

[Steve S]

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I have a friend who has a '99 Ford Escort who never change the oil. He did this because the salesman told him that the oil did not have to be changed for 60k mi while being informed of other long use items such as 100k use platinum-tipped spark plugs. He has maintained the oil level but now has an infrequent dashboard oil light. After he takes it to the dealer (who will probably change the oil and sending unit), what should he do to remove any build-up?

I suspect that everyone will recommend using Auto-RX and I agree. Is there anything else that can be done to loosen-up and remove some of the build-up before Auto-RX? Also, how often should the oil and/or filter be changed while the build-up is breaking down and suspended in the crankcase oil?

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Darwin thingie going on here ,why do the mfgs include an owners manual.

 

[Cutehumor]

how is sticking the dealership not the next owner any different? trading it in, gets bought by another customer.

 

[wileyE]

Have purchased Japanese crate engines for conversion to aircraft that had 30-50k on them with original oil and filter.

Tear downs for new gaskets and inspection have shown them (with a few exceptions)in good shape mechanically, though quite dirty inside. Not as bad as the old pre detergent days though.

 

[OriginHacker21]

I would REALLY have liked to see a UOA on that drained 50k oil.

 

[Steve S]

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how is sticking the dealership not the next owner any different? trading it in, gets bought by another customer.

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I haven,t found much in the way of ethics by any car mfg or dealer or car salesperson.

 

[ProfPS]

I haven't asked him what the out come was with the car. When I see him this week I will. If he hasn't done anything, I'll see if I can get some of the oil when it is changed for a UOA.

 

[blueiedgod]

Similar story:
My neighbor is a professor at University at Buffalo (so, we are talking PhD, not some high school drop out), who shall remain nameless. He bought a lawnmower tractor 2 years ago, before the mowing season started.

I was taking my lawnmower (walk behind Honda) out for hybernation. So, I was changing the oil, and oiling up the deck, and other steel parts. Saw the neighbor, told him I was putting the mower away, and changing oil, that if he wanted I could help him. He acted surprized that he had to change the oil in the tractor!!!.

I told him to start it up and let it warm up. After running for 10 minutes, I went to drain the oil, but it would not come out fast. It slowly dribbled out. The factory fill was SAE30. I put PP 5W-30 in it. And told him that he has to change it at least once year, even if he does not get 25 hours of service out of the mower. Made a copy of the Owner's Manual page and stuck it on the garage wall where he parks the tractor. lol