Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
2015 Civic was an okay compact car, the 2016 version is much improved according to most reviewers.
Almost all car sizes and models are selling at lower volume from year to date compares with last year, only Civic sold more than last year for the first 6 months of 2016.
That should tell you how bad the 9th gen was, not how good the 10th "might" be (which is likely not as good as the 8th).
Yeah, and this 10th gen is the "OMG, you better sober up or you are fired redesign" after Honda completely did massive amount of crack, hired some hookers, pawned over the design to the meth-addled accountants, and began producing things even GM snickered at. GM said, hey they did what we did in the 80s and 90s... hahaha. The 9th Gen Civic was awful and they made it not-horrible but not good by the end. Look at ALL of Honda's recent vehicles since the recession and with the exception of the Accord, they are mid-pack, less reliable, higher-priced "meh" vehicles. I would actually consider the very end of the Cobalt's existence to be a better overall car than the 9th gen Civic.
It is my belief that once you fall off the wagon with a good car, you can't really capture it back easily (or at all). You can't pull a "Mercedes" and go from "quality" to "profit margins" and instantly go back to "quality". Why? Because you probably focused on margins that you neglected R&D and that "starting over" limits you ability to improve on a good design (see the Toyota Method). My guess, because the 10th Gen has 2 new engines, a new tranny, this car will be a problem child year model and might only be saved if they can see multiple years where they work out this year's kinks. So the Civic's sales right now are those who "always" go out and buy Civics because the badge says civic and believe in that late 90s myth of Honda. We have to wait to see if Honda found a decent rehab clinic for those crack-addled 9th gen designers and engineers.
Considering that Civic is an unknown (thanks 9th gen), and the new model sales will keep dealer greedy, then other cars are as good/better with better discounts. If you are running out to buy the 10th Gen civic, that means you found some of the 9th gen's leftover crack.
