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#313144 - 02/02/03 07:24 AM the penske oil filters at kmart
eldawg4100 Offline


Registered: 11/30/02
Posts: 258
Loc: IL
I just inspected these... I would suggest you try them, they reall impressed me with build quality! worlds above the frams next to them...

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#313145 - 02/02/03 08:29 AM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
cryptokid Offline


Registered: 02/01/03
Posts: 1565
Loc: palm beach
where do you find cross referance charts for penske filters?
i use oversized filters in all the cars i service at my house so looking it up in the book at the store is of no use to me.

if anyone wants to cross referance for me the numbers are
purolator L40017
purolator L14459
purolator L14620

thankyou

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#313146 - 02/02/03 08:31 AM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
Touringpro Offline


Registered: 11/01/02
Posts: 32
Loc: Baja Oregon
Yes, they are a good deal and a good filter (made by Wix as is the Castrol MaxPro), but you'd better grab 'em while you can because it looks like K-mart is clearing their shelves of pretty much everything but Fram. [Frown]

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#313147 - 02/02/03 09:31 AM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
eldawg4100 Offline


Registered: 11/30/02
Posts: 258
Loc: IL
this kmart was closing. i mean, they didnt have anything for my car... basically, a pf-59/58 equiv... they didnt have many and they were all in disarray.

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#313148 - 02/05/03 02:27 AM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
unDummy Offline


Registered: 02/01/03
Posts: 8756
Loc: RI
Penske/Castrol/Pennzoil/Fram filters around here are mostly made by Allied Signal and not Wix.

C'mon guys, just compare the filters side by side and notice that the only difference is the paint job. Feel free to cut some open. Most of these filters are visually identical.

I am not saying that they all are made by the same company or that all store locations choose the same supplier.
But, I am saying that it would be poor to assume that someone hints that it is made by Wix and that all are. Not the case.

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#313149 - 02/05/03 03:22 AM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
unDummy Offline


Registered: 02/01/03
Posts: 8756
Loc: RI
quote:
Originally posted by cryptokid:
where do you find cross referance charts for penske filters?
i use oversized filters in all the cars i service at my house so looking it up in the book at the store is of no use to me.

if anyone wants to cross referance for me the numbers are
purolator L40017
purolator L14459
purolator L14620

What vehicles are these filters for?????
Most people try to crossreference thread size and compare different filter numbers. Others, who work at quicklube places, tend to notice what certain automakers use. Some filters are smaller to save money or to make changing easier between same engines used in different cars.

Both the L14459 and L14620 share the same Fram part numbers and other than size, are probably interchageable. I have used the L24458(1988 Honda Accord filters) in place of the L14620(most new Nissans).

I don't think there are too many filters bigger than the L40017. This filter shares the same thread as the Fram PH8A/Fram HP1.....

I use Fram as examples(but not in my car) because they are popular and one of the easiest filters to cross reference with other brands of filters. Try flipping through the catalogues at the car parts stores.

http://www.internationalfilters.com/products/oilfilters.html
http://www.filterking.com/oil.htm
http://www.cmfilters.com/spin-on.cfm
http://www.knfilters.com/crossref.htm
http://www.pureoil.com/
http://www.baldwinfilter.com/catalog/index.html
http://www.fram.com/
http://www.syntheticlubes.com/ofrefer.html
http://www.trasko-usa.com/crossref.htm
http://www.globemotorists.com/TVI%20Products/tvi_oil_filters.asp
http://www.filter.co.kr/cross_2.htm

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#313150 - 02/05/03 03:45 AM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
cryptokid Offline


Registered: 02/01/03
Posts: 1565
Loc: palm beach
those are all oversized filters for the cars i service

40017 is for my porsche
14459 is for the kia honda civic and accord
other one is oversize for kia civic and accord but i dont know if its to big yet so i wanted to buy one and see.

i also found out the penske and castrol filters numbers are the same as fram numbers.

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#313151 - 02/05/03 04:28 AM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
Al Offline


Registered: 06/08/02
Posts: 17083
Loc: Elizabethtown, Pa
PL 14620 Just look up the application for a 2000 Maxima. If the Penske is the same # as Fram its 7317, K&N HP 1010, Mobil 1 1-110

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#313152 - 02/05/03 07:04 PM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
Touringpro Offline


Registered: 11/01/02
Posts: 32
Loc: Baja Oregon
quote:
Originally posted by Peter:
Penske/Castrol/Pennzoil/Fram filters around here are mostly made by Allied Signal and not Wix.


*sigh* I think this makes about the third time I've posted this link in answer to the question 'who makes Penske and Castrol filters?'. Allied Signal - now Honeywell - likely/probably/supposedly/reportedly manufacture Fram and Penzoil filters; but the Penske's and MaxPro's are a Wix product. </rant> [Big Grin]

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#313153 - 02/06/03 01:22 AM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
huxley7 Offline


Registered: 01/23/03
Posts: 33
Loc: Kansas City, Mo
Touringpro

The that paper is dated march 31,1999 is that still true today????

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#313154 - 02/06/03 01:54 AM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
unDummy Offline


Registered: 02/01/03
Posts: 8756
Loc: RI
quote:
Originally posted by huxley7:
Touringpro
The that paper is dated march 31,1999 is that still true today????

Yep, its still true. Watch out for old inventory being roled out. The most recent Kmart that closed(a year ago) had non-Wix filters.
The two Kmarts that just announced closings have the Wix Penske/Castrol filters, but a horrible selection. I haven't shopped at the Kmart in years since competitors have moved in. Also, haven't used the Fram or its clones and rarely do I check to see if suppliers change(as noted in the trusty Dana financial statements in 1999) for certain brands.

So, I stand corrected. Be careful since Penske has been around since 1995-6? and not so busy Kmarts might have old stock hanging around.

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#313155 - 02/06/03 05:34 AM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
metroplex Offline


Registered: 09/12/02
Posts: 1945
Loc: SE MI
I've purchased Penske/Wix filters from K-mart for the past 3 years. They only started to clear their shelves since last summer. [Frown]

Fram filters are CONSIDERABLY lighter than other filters.

I still have a few Penske oil filters in my storage - but its mostly SuperTech now.

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#313156 - 02/06/03 05:19 PM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
Toycor7 Offline


Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 9
Loc: North Florida
I just cut open a Castrol, Penske, and a Wix. The Castrol and Penske were from Kmart, the Wix from a local parts store. I don't have the filter numbers in front of me, but, the Castrol and penske filters were xx3600's, and the Wix was a 51516.
The Cast, and Pen I cut open were deninitely made by Wix. All three filters looked the same. All had the same bypass design-the bypass rests on the filter, and comes off when the filter is cut open. The tube had a spiral design. The Wix filter was for a different car. There was a spring/metal device blocking the view into the tube. The pleats were the of the same spacing and depth BUT--It looked to me that the C,P filters were very old. The paper media was brittle. I gripped the Wix, and, with my thumb, I pulled the paper to the side. The media of the castrol and penske both ripped. The media also looked yellowish. The Wix did not tear, and the media looked white. Perhaps this is how Wix sells there surplus stock. Kmart charged $3.50 for each. I will spend an extra 2 bucks and buy a "new" Wix at the parts store. After seeing this, I don't feel comfortable using a Castrol, or Penske from Kmart. Especially for extended drains-not even 6 months.

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#313157 - 02/06/03 09:52 PM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
Chris Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 534
Loc: South
Good post Toycor. Brings up a good question. How long is the shelf life of a oil filter?

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#313158 - 02/06/03 11:43 PM Re: the penske oil filters at kmart
Patman Offline



Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 19622
Loc: Oakville, Ontario
quote:
Originally posted by Chris:
Good post Toycor. Brings up a good question. How long is the shelf life of a oil filter?

In the car with oil in it? Or on the shelf? On the shelf I would imagine it would be good for 10 years, on the car, maybe a year or two tops.

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