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#1631140 - 10/14/09 08:33 AM Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1
mez Offline


Registered: 11/14/06
Posts: 242
Loc: MA
What off the shelf synthetic Transmission fluid would you recommend in lieu of using Honda ATF-Z1? I was thinking of using Mobil 1?
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#1631145 - 10/14/09 08:38 AM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: mez]
Hermann Offline


Registered: 08/10/05
Posts: 2438
Loc: Kansas City
If you are dead set against using the Z-1, probably Amsoil. It is the only alternative that seems to please the users who switch.
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#1631165 - 10/14/09 08:50 AM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Hermann]
bepperb Offline


Registered: 01/10/08
Posts: 4966
Loc: Milwaukee, WI
There are several. M1, Amsoil, Castol Import. There don't seem to be bad experiences, or at least not any more than there would be with Z1.
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#1631167 - 10/14/09 08:51 AM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Hermann]
Familyguy Offline


Registered: 07/19/09
Posts: 1303
Loc: Virginia
They don't have any Honda dealers in MA? You can also get it at a Saturn dealer (until they fold up their tents) since 1st generation Saturn VUEs with the 3.5L Honda engine used Honda Z1 fluid. The Saturn dealer will have repackaged Z1, though I can't remember the part number offhand.
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#1631173 - 10/14/09 08:58 AM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Familyguy]
94MaxGXE Offline


Registered: 05/18/03
Posts: 301
Loc: SE Michigan
When the time comes for my 07 Honda, I think i will try Valvoline MaxLife DEX/MERC ATF.


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Recommended for use where the following fluids are specified:
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GM DEXRON, DEXRON II, III and VI
Toyota and Lexus Type T, T-III, T-IV and WS
Allison TES 295 and 389
Nissan Matic-D, Matic-J and Matic-K
Honda and Acura ATF Z-1 (except CVT)
Mercedes NAG-1
Mitsubishi Diamond SP-II and SP-III
Kia SP-II and SP-III
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#1631188 - 10/14/09 09:15 AM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: 94MaxGXE]
tig1 Offline


Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 12097
Loc: Illinois
I don't have Hondas but the M1 ATF has worked well for me. I started using M1 ATF when Mobil first produced it. Here's the link.

https://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Synthetic_ATF.aspx


Edited by tig1 (10/14/09 09:15 AM)
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#1631235 - 10/14/09 09:55 AM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: tig1]
Jim 5 Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 4009
Loc: Calgary Canada
Pennzoil has an import multi-vehicle ATF that says recommended for Honda and Acura ATF Z-1 (except CVT).

I think I'm going to use the Mityvac and suck out a gallon at every oil change and replace it with the PZ stuff. I'll post results.
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#1631281 - 10/14/09 10:51 AM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Jim 5]
nfs480 Offline


Registered: 04/10/09
Posts: 549
Loc: Minnesota
I've been putting the Amsoil Synthetic Universal ATF in my Honda's and it's been working fantastically.
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#1631289 - 10/14/09 10:55 AM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: nfs480]
Johnny Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
Red Line D4 works well in my Element.

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#1631296 - 10/14/09 10:59 AM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Johnny]
Jim 5 Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 4009
Loc: Calgary Canada
Originally Posted By: Johnny
Red Line D4 works well in my Element.


Surprised you're not using PZ's Import MV ATF!
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#1631310 - 10/14/09 11:10 AM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Jim 5]
Johnny Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
If I did not have to buy it buy the case, I would. No one around me sells it by the quart and it only takes 3.5 quarts to drain and fill the Element.

I might add my wife's Element has the Amsoil ATF in it and it also works well.

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#1631684 - 10/14/09 04:07 PM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Johnny]
PandaBear Offline


Registered: 08/05/02
Posts: 13462
Loc: Silicon Valley
Maxlife seems to do well in my Integra, then again, probably many import MV ATF especially those that meet JASO A1 will do.
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#1631759 - 10/14/09 04:59 PM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: PandaBear]
Ken2 Offline


Registered: 12/02/02
Posts: 6375
Loc: Washington St.
The only fluid that meets the Honda spec is Honda's own fluid.

The other fluids are "recommended" by the oil maker for your car. They'll likely do a find job, but they have not been tested and do not meet the spec.
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#1631792 - 10/14/09 05:24 PM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Ken2]
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 9256
Loc: Buffalo, NY
There are countless Honda Odyssey owners using Valvoline Maxlife ATF in thier Z-1 spec'd Odys. Maxlife is a "suitable for Z-1 use" ATF per it's specs. Obviously none are going to be approved by Honda. Keep in mind the Odyssey has probably the worst track record in regards to transmission longevity and Maxlife does excellent in them. There's not a single failure report of one running Maxlife that I've seen.

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#1631981 - 10/14/09 08:00 PM Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: JTK]
caravanmike Offline


Registered: 05/09/09
Posts: 1058
Loc: ohio
Originally Posted By: JTK
There are countless Honda Odyssey owners using Valvoline Maxlife ATF in thier Z-1 spec'd Odys. Maxlife is a "suitable for Z-1 use" ATF per it's specs. Obviously none are going to be approved by Honda. Keep in mind the Odyssey has probably the worst track record in regards to transmission longevity and Maxlife does excellent in them. There's not a single failure report of one running Maxlife that I've seen.

Joel


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