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Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms

Posted By: mcwilly

Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/25/19 07:50 PM

Another well made filter off the CX3.
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Posted By: RamFan

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/25/19 07:54 PM

Looks good. When did Mazda stop putting end caps on these? I've cut open a few off the CX-5 and they've all had metal end caps.
Posted By: mcwilly

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/25/19 08:02 PM

Not sure this is the second one I have cut, both the same:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...5010-7600-7-700kms-2016-cx-3#Post4964645
Posted By: ZeeOSix

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/25/19 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by RamFan
Looks good. When did Mazda stop putting end caps on these?


Probably when Denso started making them.
Posted By: Bill_W

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/25/19 08:26 PM

The previous ones had metal end caps. No Skyactiv oil filter has a ADBV either. You would think bad oil would sneak around on the ends to the good side. A closer look shows the ends are glued. Nice thick media. Different, but still good.
Posted By: The Critic

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/25/19 09:36 PM

Are these the real OE Mazda filters or is it one of their "value line" filters?
Posted By: blupupher

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/25/19 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Probably when Denso started making them.

I hate that I looked at this filter and the first thing I thought was "hmm, a Denso made filter".

Originally Posted by mcwilly
Not sure this is the second one I have cut, both the same:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...5010-7600-7-700kms-2016-cx-3#Post4964645

The one in the link looks a little different. Biggest difference is the bypass button, in this one it is round, in the one in the link is squarish (or is it just because it is opposite sides?)

So did you put the same thing back on?
Posted By: PimTac

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/25/19 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by The Critic
Are these the real OE Mazda filters or is it one of their "value line" filters?




The value line filters are manufactured in Mexico. These are Thailand made filters. These are considered a step up from the value line.
Posted By: ZeeOSix

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/26/19 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by blupupher
The one in the link looks a little different. Biggest difference is the bypass button, in this one it is round, in the one in the link is squarish (or is it just because it is opposite sides?)


Denso has a round bypass valve - think the photo gives an optical illusion.
Posted By: wemay

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/26/19 12:06 AM

Filter looks well made indeed. It's just another OE that doesn't use metal end caps, and in this case, no end caps whatsoever. Makes all those arguments moot.
Posted By: PotatoFarmer77w

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/26/19 12:13 AM

Thanks for the cut open thumbsup
Posted By: PimTac

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/26/19 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by blupupher
The one in the link looks a little different. Biggest difference is the bypass button, in this one it is round, in the one in the link is squarish (or is it just because it is opposite sides?)


Denso has a round bypass valve - think the photo gives an optical illusion.




ZeeOSix, have you heard anything definitive that Mazda has or is switching to Denso from Roki? Ever since their Toyota tie up, I suspected that would be the case but have never heard the answer.

It would make sense and additionally, the Toyota alliance was made to give Mazda access to the Toyota supply stream. That may not be across the board though.
Posted By: ZeeOSix

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/26/19 01:03 AM

^^^ Haven't heard anything official, but it's clear that this Mazda OEM filter is Denso by the construction, especially if Mazda and Toyota are collaborating then this filter looks to be a result of that.
Posted By: Mr Nice

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/26/19 01:08 AM

I like the inlet holes and center tube with nice opening.

I know oil is under pressure but some filters have very small holes.
Posted By: DzoG20

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/26/19 01:24 AM

and the $65k question is why not use the Fram Ultra?

Look like the skyactiv certified WIX has the same bypass rating as the latest Ultra(per website specs).
And AFAIK the syntetic should flow better than the paper filter so whats the deal? - besides the warranty concerns ?

What makes this one special ?
Posted By: mcwilly

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/26/19 10:36 AM

Few more pics of the bypass.

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Posted By: Bill_W

Re: Cut Open - Mazda OEM @ 7,000kms - 04/26/19 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by DzoG20

What makes this one special ?


Good question... Why did Mazda choose this design? This media, no ADBV, no end caps. And being the filter that supersedes previous designs.

Gotta be a reason. Mazda engineering is all about the engine and reliability is number one. A lot of different views here, still there it is....
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