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Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB

Posted By: LotI

Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/15/19 09:30 PM

Neighbor was out today changing the oil in his new-ish C-Class Merc. He didn’t have ramps so he was one wheel on the curb crawling on the ground. I glanced at his choice of oil and noticed he had Mobil Super 5w-30.

I asked if I could offer some advice and told him about MB requiring the use of certain oils and I mentioned that I believe his car needed a 229.5 oil since it was the gas V6. I also mentioned that a good use of $50 was on some ramps. Since he already drained the oil my offer to use mine was for naught.

It was only a block from my house so I took the dog home and eyed up my stash. Grabbing 2 jugs of Valvoline MST bought recently from WM for $10.47/jug and my funnel, I went back. He still had the receipt for the Autozone purchase of 8 qts of Mobil Super so I offered to sell him the Valvoline for $20. I showed the back of the jug with all the MB, VW, BMW, and Porsche approvals and he agreed it was the right choice. I lost a couple bucks but know there’s a healthier Mercedes on the road.

A couple weeks ago he told me he was doing it himself because the dealer wanted $100 for an oil change. He told me he paid $80 for the oil and M1 filter at AZ ( crzy)so I explained that Amazon and Walmart are your better choices.

I told him to get two more things to make life easier...rubber gloves and the cheap pick set from Harbor Freight to get those o-rings off the filter housing.

I left feeling like a Boy Scout.
Posted By: The Critic

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/15/19 09:56 PM

Very nice. Was it a newer C-class with the 4-cyl turbo like this one?

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...50-1-8l-tgdi-p034062-cam-adjuster-repair
Posted By: Wolf359

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/15/19 10:08 PM

Yeah, plus the Mobil 1 rebate and it's now down to $20 at Walmart for a 5 quart jug.
Posted By: loneryder

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/15/19 10:10 PM

Wow. I've never seen Valvoline MST oil that low. They don't show it coming in "jugs" just qts. It's on sale now at NAPA for 5.29 a qt which is the best price I've found. Are you sure it was MST oil which is for diesels?
Posted By: Wolf359

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/15/19 10:22 PM

Yeah, if it was 229.5 then it wasn't MST which is 229.51 which is meant for diesels although you can use it in a gas engine. The ideal oil for a gas engine is 229.5. MST isn't on the list of 229.5 oils.

I don't like MB's numbering scheme, people tend to assume that 229.51 supersedes 229.5. But it doesn't. Although 229.52 supersedes 229.51.

https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.5_en.html
Posted By: gathermewool

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/15/19 11:02 PM

You, sir, are no less than a MAN scout!

Very well done
Posted By: edyvw

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/15/19 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by loneryder
Wow. I've never seen Valvoline MST oil that low. They don't show it coming in "jugs" just qts. It's on sale now at NAPA for 5.29 a qt which is the best price I've found. Are you sure it was MST oil which is for diesels?

It does not matter anymore. Sulfur levels are down, so MB229.51 is OK. Those engines in Europe are anyway recommended for MB229.51.
Posted By: Kira

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/15/19 11:20 PM

+1 on being the Man Scout but your neighbor gets BIG POINTS for listening.

Inspirational Anecdote:
Lifetimes ago Burns and Allen (George Burns and Gracie Allen) were on the tube and an uncle pointed them out to me.
I knew who they were. He continued by informing me Gracie was the brains of the operation and that George was smart enough to go with it.
I applied that lesson to many things-even non-sexualized situations.
Posted By: edyvw

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/15/19 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by LotI
Neighbor was out today changing the oil in his new-ish C-Class Merc. He didn’t have ramps so he was one wheel on the curb crawling on the ground. I glanced at his choice of oil and noticed he had Mobil Super 5w-30.

I asked if I could offer some advice and told him about MB requiring the use of certain oils and I mentioned that I believe his car needed a 229.5 oil since it was the gas V6. I also mentioned that a good use of $50 was on some ramps. Since he already drained the oil my offer to use mine was for naught.

It was only a block from my house so I took the dog home and eyed up my stash. Grabbing 2 jugs of Valvoline MST bought recently from WM for $10.47/jug and my funnel, I went back. He still had the receipt for the Autozone purchase of 8 qts of Mobil Super so I offered to sell him the Valvoline for $20. I showed the back of the jug with all the MB, VW, BMW, and Porsche approvals and he agreed it was the right choice. I lost a couple bucks but know there’s a healthier Mercedes on the road.

A couple weeks ago he told me he was doing it himself because the dealer wanted $100 for an oil change. He told me he paid $80 for the oil and M1 filter at AZ ( crzy)so I explained that Amazon and Walmart are your better choices.

I told him to get two more things to make life easier...rubber gloves and the cheap pick set from Harbor Freight to get those o-rings off the filter housing.

I left feeling like a Boy Scout.

You most definitely are.
Posted By: Chris142

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 12:59 AM

Somewhere on a MB forum a guy is complaining about a nosey neighbor that bothered his oil change routine.
Posted By: LotI

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by The Critic
Very nice. Was it a newer C-class with the 4-cyl turbo like this one?

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...50-1-8l-tgdi-p034062-cam-adjuster-repair

Nope, V6 gasser
Originally Posted by loneryder
Wow. I've never seen Valvoline MST oil that low. They don't show it coming in "jugs" just qts. It's on sale now at NAPA for 5.29 a qt which is the best price I've found. Are you sure it was MST oil which is for diesels?

You missed the special from Walmart where many of us stocked up. It’s C3 based but meets many gasser specs including 502 00 & A40 & SN
Sorry you missed it
Originally Posted by Chris142
Somewhere on a MB forum a guy is complaining about a nosey neighbor that bothered his oil change routine.

Love it, I did mention I’m a member of a forum where geeks like us talk about oil! I only mentioned Boy Scout since I did my good deed for the day.
Posted By: gregk24

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 02:35 AM

Nice! Glad he responded well to your offer, many people would scoff and tell you to pound sand.
Posted By: JeffKeryk

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 03:07 AM

Kudos; well done.
Posted By: tomcat27

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 04:05 AM

You did good. He's the moron that buys a Mercedes but doesn't wanna spend 100 on an oil change. If he used the wrong oil and had problems he woulda blamed MB
Posted By: edyvw

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by Chris142
Somewhere on a MB forum a guy is complaining about a nosey neighbor that bothered his oil change routine.

There are no MB forums where people talk about DIY stuff. That does not exists. When I was considering GL450, I joined several. By far most useless forums to figure out anything.
Posted By: Garak

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 04:59 AM

It depends what generation of MB. If it's something new, you might be in trouble. If you go back a few model years, there is plenty online.
Posted By: Wolf359

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Chris142
Somewhere on a MB forum a guy is complaining about a nosey neighbor that bothered his oil change routine.

There are no MB forums where people talk about DIY stuff. That does not exists. When I was considering GL450, I joined several. By far most useless forums to figure out anything.


Depends on the forum and the model. Certain ones like the CL or CLS or other low production models don't get many posts. The most active forum is mbworld.org. Sometimes though you have to go to one of the other forums to find more activity. I look in the AMG forums sometimes too just because they tend to be more loaded and so sometimes you see more mention of options that the more base level cars don't have. Also the DIY stuff depends on the year, the early stuff that's still within 4 years of the factory warranty you won't find any mention of DIY stuff as they will all take it to the dealer as it should all be under warranty.
Posted By: edyvw

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by Garak
It depends what generation of MB. If it's something new, you might be in trouble. If you go back a few model years, there is plenty online.

True, but still, compared to BMW, Audi etc. it is really not helpful.
Posted By: edyvw

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Chris142
Somewhere on a MB forum a guy is complaining about a nosey neighbor that bothered his oil change routine.

There are no MB forums where people talk about DIY stuff. That does not exists. When I was considering GL450, I joined several. By far most useless forums to figure out anything.


Depends on the forum and the model. Certain ones like the CL or CLS or other low production models don't get many posts. The most active forum is mbworld.org. Sometimes though you have to go to one of the other forums to find more activity. I look in the AMG forums sometimes too just because they tend to be more loaded and so sometimes you see more mention of options that the more base level cars don't have. Also the DIY stuff depends on the year, the early stuff that's still within 4 years of the factory warranty you won't find any mention of DIY stuff as they will all take it to the dealer as it should all be under warranty.

I was looking older stuff too see issues related to vehicles. Not a lot of stuff available, and GL was best selling full size luxury SUV fr a long time, and still is I believe.
Posted By: Wolf359

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Chris142
Somewhere on a MB forum a guy is complaining about a nosey neighbor that bothered his oil change routine.

There are no MB forums where people talk about DIY stuff. That does not exists. When I was considering GL450, I joined several. By far most useless forums to figure out anything.


Depends on the forum and the model. Certain ones like the CL or CLS or other low production models don't get many posts. The most active forum is mbworld.org. Sometimes though you have to go to one of the other forums to find more activity. I look in the AMG forums sometimes too just because they tend to be more loaded and so sometimes you see more mention of options that the more base level cars don't have. Also the DIY stuff depends on the year, the early stuff that's still within 4 years of the factory warranty you won't find any mention of DIY stuff as they will all take it to the dealer as it should all be under warranty.

I was looking older stuff too see issues related to vehicles. Not a lot of stuff available, and GL was best selling full size luxury SUV fr a long time, and still is I believe.


It's best selling for a luxury SUV, but the numbers were low compared to an E class or C class. It's also a GLS now, the last GL was in 2016. Some of the forums go through spurts, they can die for a little while as people trade in their old ones and you don't get new blood in the forums. That's why you have to raid some other car forums that used the same engine/transmission. And then some issues like keyless go apply to multiple car lines and you try some of the other forums.
Posted By: Marco620

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by LotI
Neighbor was out today changing the oil in his new-ish C-Class Merc. He didn’t have ramps so he was one wheel on the curb crawling on the ground. I glanced at his choice of oil and noticed he had Mobil Super 5w-30.

I asked if I could offer some advice and told him about MB requiring the use of certain oils and I mentioned that I believe his car needed a 229.5 oil since it was the gas V6. I also mentioned that a good use of $50 was on some ramps. Since he already drained the oil my offer to use mine was for naught.

It was only a block from my house so I took the dog home and eyed up my stash. Grabbing 2 jugs of Valvoline MST bought recently from WM for $10.47/jug and my funnel, I went back. He still had the receipt for the Autozone purchase of 8 qts of Mobil Super so I offered to sell him the Valvoline for $20. I showed the back of the jug with all the MB, VW, BMW, and Porsche approvals and he agreed it was the right choice. I lost a couple bucks but know there’s a healthier Mercedes on the road.

A couple weeks ago he told me he was doing it himself because the dealer wanted $100 for an oil change. He told me he paid $80 for the oil and M1 filter at AZ ( crzy)so I explained that Amazon and Walmart are your better choices.

I told him to get two more things to make life easier...rubber gloves and the cheap pick set from Harbor Freight to get those o-rings off the filter housing.

I left feeling like a Boy Scout.


Good looking out. Feels good helping out your fellow man. Restores my hope/faith in humanity.
Posted By: edyvw

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 06:50 AM

Quote
It's best selling for a luxury SUV, but the numbers were low compared to an E class or C class. It's also a GLS now, the last GL was in 2016. Some of the forums go through spurts, they can die for a little while as people trade in their old ones and you don't get new blood in the forums. That's why you have to raid some other car forums that used the same engine/transmission. And then some issues like keyless go apply to multiple car lines and you try some of the other forums.

Yeah I know it is GLS.
Still, not a lot. Each mfrs have their own trajectory.
MB: Discussing prices mostly and dealers.
Audi: Tunning, tunning, tunning.
BMW: DIY mostly (of all BMW is most useful by far).
Toyota: Self congratulating on buying Toyota. No criticism allowed, if problem, it has to be lemon.
VW; Mixed, some good info could be found.
Posted By: barryh

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 09:01 AM

Next bit of education that neighbor needs is to quit crawling underneath it and pump the oil out from above. MB's are designed for it and it's what the dealer would do.
Posted By: Bailes1992

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 10:20 AM

Unless someone specifically asks me or I'm doing the oil change I don't recommend anything to anyone. If the engine decided to spit a rod a few months later or a HG failed you can guarantee they would blame you.
Posted By: 2015_PSD

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by tomcat27
You did good. He's the moron that buys a Mercedes but doesn't wanna spend 100 on an oil change. If he used the wrong oil and had problems he woulda blamed MB
If the dealers only charged $100 for an oil change...
Posted By: TiGeo

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 11:16 AM

$100 is normal sounding for a Euro car's oil change. My VW dealer charges ~$120 for an oil change/tire rotation and at 1-2 a year...that's really not bad. My DIY is close to $65 but I don't use the sale/rebate/Wally world oil so could be cheaper if I wanted.
Posted By: TiGeo

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 11:21 AM

Isn't that "Mobil Super 5W30" listed on the approved MB list that a link was posted to in this thread or is that a different oil?
Posted By: Garak

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by edyvw
True, but still, compared to BMW, Audi etc. it is really not helpful.

I can't say for BMW so much since I haven't looked, but there was definitely a lot out for the Audi. With my god daughter's MB, I was able to find a fair number of things on the forums but the bulk of it was at Pelican.

TiGeo: There is a bulk product that is a Mobil Super. It's not the same Mobil Super you'll find at the stores.
Posted By: BMWTurboDzl

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 11:47 AM

Nice gesture! FWIW I admit that over the years I more than once contemplated a "curb side" OCI myself.
Posted By: Red91

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 11:49 AM

I'm struggling with the fact that the guy with a new Mercedes curb hopped it to do an oil change. Wonder how difficult it was to get the gravel shield down from that position.
Posted By: JunkdrawerDog

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 03:15 PM

You see this stuff occasionally. Walked into a Walmart TLE once to find a guy price haggling over an oil change on his Bentley. Car looked almost new.
Posted By: MaximaGuy

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 03:46 PM

$150 is the running rate for MBs at the dealership. OP was a true Boy Scout helping his neighbor and hope he takes your recommendation and get the tools to do the job right.
Hope I had one near my home - good job OP!! Yes, it has been a heartburn to get the MB numbering scheme comprehended, there is a reason Euro zone is heading to the toilet, a few lessons to learn from US on how to number things.
Posted By: Wolf359

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by edyvw
Quote
It's best selling for a luxury SUV, but the numbers were low compared to an E class or C class. It's also a GLS now, the last GL was in 2016. Some of the forums go through spurts, they can die for a little while as people trade in their old ones and you don't get new blood in the forums. That's why you have to raid some other car forums that used the same engine/transmission. And then some issues like keyless go apply to multiple car lines and you try some of the other forums.

Yeah I know it is GLS.
Still, not a lot. Each mfrs have their own trajectory.
MB: Discussing prices mostly and dealers.
Audi: Tunning, tunning, tunning.
BMW: DIY mostly (of all BMW is most useful by far).
Toyota: Self congratulating on buying Toyota. No criticism allowed, if problem, it has to be lemon.
VW; Mixed, some good info could be found.


What year GL were you looking at? You don't really find people doing DIY stuff til after 4+ years. And sometimes not even that much. The GL basically only sold around 30k units a year much lower than other mainstream cars/trucks which might sell anywhere from 100-400k a year. You're going to get much lower activity on a niche car like that. You kinda get the same thing with the S class, only a few people seem to DIY stuff on there. However, there is a konigstiger out there who seems to answer the more complex questions, seems like he works for a dealer or MB so sometimes he has really good answers to very specific problems.
Posted By: Wolf359

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by 2015_PSD
Originally Posted by tomcat27
You did good. He's the moron that buys a Mercedes but doesn't wanna spend 100 on an oil change. If he used the wrong oil and had problems he woulda blamed MB
If the dealers only charged $100 for an oil change...


It's about $100 for just an oil change at the MB dealer. Mine uses 8.5 quarts of synthetic oil and the cartridge filter is usually at least $7 online, at the local stores they're usually $15-$20 so it's not too bad a deal. That usually includes a car wash, free snacks, etc.

Normally they try to make you do Service A which is around $250-$300 which is basically just an oil change plus checking a bunch of stuff and maybe changing some filters/wipers, but you could decline and just tell them to change the oil and it'd be in the $100 range. Occasionally they run specials where they take off $120-$140 on service over $200-$250 so it can make for a pretty cheap Service A.

Originally Posted by TiGeo
Isn't that "Mobil Super 5W30" listed on the approved MB list that a link was posted to in this thread or is that a different oil?


It depends on exactly which Super it was. There's Super 3000 Formula M, Super 3000 X4 5w30 that meets the 229.5 spec. However there could be a regular Super 5w30 that doesn't meet spec. Too many flavors out there today. Only way to tell is to look at the back of the bottle and see if it says 229.5. My guess was that it didn't say it.

https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.5_en.html
Posted By: Garak

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 05:30 PM

The Super 3000 in North America is usually dealer bulk, sold in quantities only attractive to dealers.
Posted By: MCompact

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/16/19 08:00 PM

An oil change on my F22 is usually under $80 at my BMW dealer; I usually have a coupon from either the dealer or BMW USA that knocks it down a bit further.
Posted By: 2015_PSD

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/20/19 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by 2015_PSD
Originally Posted by tomcat27
You did good. He's the moron that buys a Mercedes but doesn't wanna spend 100 on an oil change. If he used the wrong oil and had problems he woulda blamed MB
If the dealers only charged $100 for an oil change...


It's about $100 for just an oil change at the MB dealer. Mine uses 8.5 quarts of synthetic oil and the cartridge filter is usually at least $7 online, at the local stores they're usually $15-$20 so it's not too bad a deal. That usually includes a car wash, free snacks, etc.

Normally they try to make you do Service A which is around $250-$300 which is basically just an oil change plus checking a bunch of stuff and maybe changing some filters/wipers, but you could decline and just tell them to change the oil and it'd be in the $100 range. Occasionally they run specials where they take off $120-$140 on service over $200-$250 so it can make for a pretty cheap Service A.
I change my own at about $45; I have no desire to pay double or more for an oil change and then have to wonder what oil was used and what they may have messed up. The belly pan bolts and speed nuts were all stripped on my wife's C300 when they performed an alignment. I made them replace all of them and hand tighten instead of using the @&$#* air tools they did. Mercedes dealers are no different than the others...they just charge more.
Posted By: Wolf359

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/23/19 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by 2015_PSD
Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by 2015_PSD
Originally Posted by tomcat27
You did good. He's the moron that buys a Mercedes but doesn't wanna spend 100 on an oil change. If he used the wrong oil and had problems he woulda blamed MB
If the dealers only charged $100 for an oil change...


It's about $100 for just an oil change at the MB dealer. Mine uses 8.5 quarts of synthetic oil and the cartridge filter is usually at least $7 online, at the local stores they're usually $15-$20 so it's not too bad a deal. That usually includes a car wash, free snacks, etc.

Normally they try to make you do Service A which is around $250-$300 which is basically just an oil change plus checking a bunch of stuff and maybe changing some filters/wipers, but you could decline and just tell them to change the oil and it'd be in the $100 range. Occasionally they run specials where they take off $120-$140 on service over $200-$250 so it can make for a pretty cheap Service A.
I change my own at about $45; I have no desire to pay double or more for an oil change and then have to wonder what oil was used and what they may have messed up. The belly pan bolts and speed nuts were all stripped on my wife's C300 when they performed an alignment. I made them replace all of them and hand tighten instead of using the @&$#* air tools they did. Mercedes dealers are no different than the others...they just charge more.


Yeah, I do mine also, cost me about $25 but that's because I picked up oil for about $2/quart. You can still do that now with Mobil 1 0w40 and it's about $23 at Walmart with the $12 Mobil rebate. So about $17 for the 8.5 quarts of oil and about 7+ for the Mann filter and I'm at about $25 per oil change. DIY time is a wash because it would take that long to drive to the dealer.
Posted By: 2015_PSD

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/23/19 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by Wolf359
Yeah, I do mine also, cost me about $25 but that's because I picked up oil for about $2/quart. You can still do that now with Mobil 1 0w40 and it's about $23 at Walmart with the $12 Mobil rebate. So about $17 for the 8.5 quarts of oil and about 7+ for the Mann filter and I'm at about $25 per oil change. DIY time is a wash because it would take that long to drive to the dealer.
I overestimated to keep it "honest". I bought about 2 dozen jugs of Castrol Edge Euro 0W-40 for about $18 per jug and Mann filters from Rock Auto for about $6 each. So the actual math is likely closer to $32 per OC--far below what MB charges and I know what oil was used and it is done right.
Posted By: pezzy669

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/24/19 12:21 AM

I agree with the poster above is show him about the topside suction method - just make sure is large enough for the massive sump (~8 some odd quarts on the M272, think its a little less with the Pentastar cousin M276). Only requires removing the front portion of the engine cover on the M272 to access the filter.

$100 for a dealer oil change - I would take that in a heartbeat! My local dealer was a "deal" around here for $129, sometime last year they jacked it up to $169 or $189.
Posted By: Wolf359

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/24/19 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by pezzy669
I agree with the poster above is show him about the topside suction method - just make sure is large enough for the massive sump (~8 some odd quarts on the M272, think its a little less with the Pentastar cousin M276). Only requires removing the front portion of the engine cover on the M272 to access the filter.

$100 for a dealer oil change - I would take that in a heartbeat! My local dealer was a "deal" around here for $129, sometime last year they jacked it up to $169 or $189.


Most MB dealers offer some kind of discount on their specials page and other MB dealers in the area will honor the discount at another MB dealer so you have to shop around and then ask your local MB dealer to match it. Also I don't bother with the topside method. It's a 10k oil change, I do it at about 8 or 9k, but that's not that often so my $25 oil change would go way up if I bought some kind of suction device. Plus a while ago when I changed the oil, I noticed a rip in the CV boot. You won't find that if you just suck the oil out the top every time.
Posted By: 2015_PSD

Re: Walked the dog, helped a neighbor with his MB - 07/24/19 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by pezzy669
I agree with the poster above is show him about the topside suction method - just make sure is large enough for the massive sump (~8 some odd quarts on the M272, think its a little less with the Pentastar cousin M276). Only requires removing the front portion of the engine cover on the M272 to access the filter. $100 for a dealer oil change - I would take that in a heartbeat! My local dealer was a "deal" around here for $129, sometime last year they jacked it up to $169 or $189.
Most MB dealers offer some kind of discount on their specials page and other MB dealers in the area will honor the discount at another MB dealer so you have to shop around and then ask your local MB dealer to match it. Also I don't bother with the topside method. It's a 10k oil change, I do it at about 8 or 9k, but that's not that often so my $25 oil change would go way up if I bought some kind of suction device. Plus a while ago when I changed the oil, I noticed a rip in the CV boot. You won't find that if you just suck the oil out the top every time.
Color me not a fan of topside suction. I typically change my oil after a drive and I like the fact that all of the oil and potential contaminants run out of the bottom of the pan. In addition, as others have stated, it gives me a chance to inspect other portions of the car that I would not by suctioning from up top.
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