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Fram 3614 need shorter filter #5338005 02/01/20 10:06 AM
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Hello. Does anyone know of the next couple sizes that are shorter than a 3614?


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Re: Fram 3614 need shorter filter [Re: locomaster1969] #5338009 02/01/20 10:13 AM
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Re: Fram 3614 need shorter filter [Re: locomaster1969] #5338023 02/01/20 10:27 AM
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8172, 8170 I think that's about it.


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Re: Fram 3614 need shorter filter [Re: locomaster1969] #5338051 02/01/20 11:12 AM
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wix 51394

3614 is 3.34 inches high thread is 3/4-16 bypass 12psi

wix 51394 is 2.97 inches high thread 3/4-16 bypass 8-11psi

Donaldson 502024 is 2.56 inches high, thread 3/4-16 bypass 11-16psi NO ADBV

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Re: Fram 3614 need shorter filter [Re: locomaster1969] #5338059 02/01/20 11:23 AM
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4967

Re: Fram 3614 need shorter filter [Re: slacktide_bitog] #5338083 02/01/20 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
4967

If it will fit & seal at the base: the diameter and gasket are smaller.


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Re: Fram 3614 need shorter filter [Re: MrMoody] #5338323 02/01/20 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMoody
Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
4967

If it will fit & seal at the base: the diameter and gasket are smaller.


Oh.

I thought the 4386 and 4967 had the same gasket diameter as the 3614

I thought people on here installed 3614's and even 3600's on cars that spec 4386/4967

Re: Fram 3614 need shorter filter [Re: slacktide_bitog] #5338339 02/01/20 06:00 PM
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It's not a lot of difference. Many applications will fit and seal, it depends on the mount. I know they work on our Toyota.


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Re: Fram 3614 need shorter filter [Re: MrMoody] #5338348 02/01/20 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMoody
8172, 8170 I think that's about it.


What he said 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

PH8172 -smaller

https://www.fram.com/parts-search/P...CmUQBoQAUASAHAIwDsATNogDbVY10P0K3OsMC6QA

PH8170 smallest

https://www.fram.com/parts-search/P...CmUQBoQAUASAHAIwDsADNogDbVY10P0K3OsMC6QA


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Re: Fram 3614 need shorter filter [Re: locomaster1969] #5338510 02/01/20 10:04 PM
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Slacktide: the 4386 is just smidge longer than 4967 filter. Same base plate.

I run 3614 and 3600's on my Camry


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Re: Fram 3614 need shorter filter [Re: locomaster1969] #5339481 02/02/20 08:47 PM
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What about the PSI setting? Does it matter?


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Re: Fram 3614 need shorter filter [Re: locomaster1969] #5340631 02/04/20 09:44 AM
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Check your gasket landing on the vehicle to make sure you don't make a messy / costly mistake.

- PH4967 is 2.9" tall with gasket 2.21"/2.48" ID/OD, 12psi relief valve, 2.66" OD, 3/4-16 thread
- PH3614 is 3.3" tall with gasket 2.45"/2.76" ID/OD, 12psi relief valve, 3.01" OD, 3.4-16 thread

(Source: FRAM.com website)

Re: Fram 3614 need shorter filter [Re: locomaster1969] #5340638 02/04/20 09:50 AM
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Here is the PH4967 gasket laid on top of the PH3614 per the dimensions on FRAM's site. There's only 0.03" of overlap.

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