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Re: Walmart Beef [Re: Duffyjr] #5285692 12/05/19 08:21 AM
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I've never had an issue with their beef, but I recently bought some organic chicken from there and it tasted fishy. Was not a fan.

I don't eat a whole lot of red meat. Aldi seems to be my favorite for ground beef and such, though.


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Originally Posted by Gebo
Well, I have learned a lot this morning. Time for some real country ham.

Fawteen, you do know what I mean. The slices are so big I have to cut them in two to fit my cast iron skillet.


Yup. Not the water injected grocery store garbage, but a real ham.

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It makes we wonder why the WM HB stays looking good and pink through and through for several days in the fridge but the butcher shop HB gets dark on the inside in a couple of days.


It's because the Walmart meat is gassed with carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide and nitrogen which makes the meat look bright red.

It doesn't make the meat look bright red, it keeps it bright red. It's called modified atmosphere packaging, been around for a long time. The local butcher meat becomes a dark red due to oxidation.


Either way it does nothing more than fool the uneducated consumer into believing that they're buying something that is fresh, when it may or may not be fresh. Fake and phony, but a lot of people fall for it. It also doesn't mitigate the bacterial growth, so it's possible for that old, bright red meat that you've just purchased to have a higher level of bacteria than the fresh red meat that I've purchased.

Originally Posted by Duffyjr

You guys comparing wally/grocery store meat to a dedicated locker is not really fair but I get it,


I have to disagree-it's a fair comparison. A lot of people think that what they buy at Walmart (or other grocery stores) is high quality meat, but in reality it's either standard or choice. A lot of stores have a meat counter designed to look like a butcher shop with the meats all laid out nice and pretty, but they still only have lower grade, previously frozen meat. They'll slap a label on it like Angus and the average consumer doesn't know any different.

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Originally Posted by Duffyjr
Another thread got me thinking about this since the poster said the beef at his wally was not fit to eat. I have to say the beef I've had from wally has been very good. There 85% ground beef is a good, had a few chuck roasts that have been great and I like New Yorker steaks and they are just as good as the locally owned grocery store where I also buy beef but way cheaper, I can buy a two pack of steaks at wally and it's only a couple more bucks than a single steak at the other store.

I wonder if this is may be a regional thing so if you post let me know where you are at and how wally compares to other stores in your area. I live in northeast Nebraska.


Is it really beef. Maybe donkey?


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Re: Walmart Beef [Re: Duffyjr] #5285810 12/05/19 10:16 AM
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It was likely my comment that started this whole thing...here it goes

I dont find their beef to be rancid or anything...its just flavorless and or tough. I dont like the texture of their ground...I suspect a lot of connective tissue in the grind which contrary to popular belief does impact the flavor. As far as steaks go I simply dont think they offer a good price to quality ratio. Their steaks tend towards the tuff side likely because of the grade...but unlike a lot of their products...its not that cheap. The cuts are limited and frankly they are cut poorly.

I can source better ground for a very slight (.25 or less) increase per pound and get way better steaks for the same or less money. I won't pay less to get less...thats not "value".

Im a big fan of Walmarts house brands...be it "Great Value", "Ole Roy", "Supertech", "Parents Choice" etc. Walmart is Americas largest retailer and they have way to much on the line to damage their brand equity. I actually prefer the brands above to the national brands based solely on quality. Not a walmart hater at all...but beef...NO WAY


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Re: Walmart Beef [Re: Fawteen] #5285847 12/05/19 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Fawteen

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It makes we wonder why the WM HB stays looking good and pink through and through for several days in the fridge but the butcher shop HB gets dark on the inside in a couple of days.


It's because the Walmart meat is gassed with carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide and nitrogen which makes the meat look bright red.

It doesn't make the meat look bright red, it keeps it bright red. It's called modified atmosphere packaging, been around for a long time. The local butcher meat becomes a dark red due to oxidation.

Either way it does nothing more than fool the uneducated consumer into believing that they're buying something that is fresh, when it may or may not be fresh. Fake and phony, but a lot of people fall for it. It also doesn't mitigate the bacterial growth, so it's possible for that old, bright red meat that you've just purchased to have a higher level of bacteria than the fresh red meat that I've purchased.


I don't think it's done to fool the consumer. It's about supply chain. Being that your beef/chicken/pork could be slaughtered hundreds of miles away and delivered fresh (not frozen) to thousands of stores across the nation is a feat upon itself. That supply chain setup keeps prices low, hence why not too many butchers are still around, they just can't compete.

Why I think they aren't fooling the consumer is they put an expiration date on the meat.

And it does mitigate bacterial growth. Most of your spoilage bacteria is aerobic, so it needs oxygen to live. The amount of oxygen in MAP packaged goods is low, limiting the growth of spoilage bacteria. You can also vacuum package it, but isn't as appealing and some spoilage and definitely pathogenic bacteria is anaerobic, so it doesn't need oxygen to live. Having three basically inert gases is the best all around solution and also limits the oxidation, which affects taste and obviously color.

So it's not fake nor phony.


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Re: Walmart Beef [Re: Duffyjr] #5285849 12/05/19 11:12 AM
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I don't care for their regular beef, but my local Walmart has 1 pound packages of Wagyu patties for ~$5, IIRC. When I'm not eating elk....or for my one daughter that refuses to touch elk,lol, I will buy that. Occasionally, they go on clearance and I'll buy them out to throw in the freezer. It's decently tasty stuff. Far better than their regular ground and doesn't cost much more.


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Re: Walmart Beef [Re: SVTCobra] #5285872 12/05/19 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SVTCobra
That supply chain setup keeps prices low, hence why not too many butchers are still around, they just can't compete.


That's an interesting statement, I wonder if that's quite locale-specific?

Locally, butchers are quite popular. We have several in our town of ~100,000 people and nearby hamlet Lakefield has a staple butcher that recently expanded its operation. These places will also prep and cut deer for you if you hunt, along with other game.

We've shifted to buying all of our meat from the butcher at this point.


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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
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That supply chain setup keeps prices low, hence why not too many butchers are still around, they just can't compete.


That's an interesting statement, I wonder if that's quite locale-specific?

Locally, butchers are quite popular. We have several in our town of ~100,000 people and nearby hamlet Lakefield has a staple butcher that recently expanded its operation. These places will also prep and cut deer for you if you hunt, along with other game.

We've shifted to buying all of our meat from the butcher at this point.

Back home from my part of Texas I only know of one butcher shop that is 45 minutes away. Here in my part of Michigan there are 3-4 butcher shops, all 30 plus minutes. To get to the closest butcher I could easily drive to 9 grocery stores to get the most common cuts of meat.

Don't get me wrong, butchers shops have their place and do generally have better meats. From a convenience standpoint though the chain grocery stores are hard to beat and are generally more ubiquitous.


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Originally Posted by SVTCobra
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That supply chain setup keeps prices low, hence why not too many butchers are still around, they just can't compete.


That's an interesting statement, I wonder if that's quite locale-specific?

Locally, butchers are quite popular. We have several in our town of ~100,000 people and nearby hamlet Lakefield has a staple butcher that recently expanded its operation. These places will also prep and cut deer for you if you hunt, along with other game.

We've shifted to buying all of our meat from the butcher at this point.

Back home from my part of Texas I only know of one butcher shop that is 45 minutes away. Here in my part of Michigan there are 3-4 butcher shops, all 30 plus minutes. To get to the closest butcher I could easily drive to 9 grocery stores to get the most common cuts of meat.

Don't get me wrong, butchers shops have their place and do generally have better meats. From a convenience standpoint though the chain grocery stores are hard to beat and are generally more ubiquitous.


That's wild, definitely quite different from here. About the only towns that I can think of that don't have a butcher, also don't have a grocery store, so you'd have to venture into a larger centre to get meat, at which point you have access to both.


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Re: Walmart Beef [Re: OVERKILL] #5285912 12/05/19 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
That's wild, definitely quite different from here. About the only towns that I can think of that don't have a butcher, also don't have a grocery store, so you'd have to venture into a larger centre to get meat, at which point you have access to both.

I'm just an hour north of SVTCobra. There are quite a few butcher shops around here. They seem to get decent amount of traffic, and I've tried their meats a few times, but I' can't say that they're any better than what you'd get at a typical supermarket. Their pork has an offputting aftertaste, just like the supermarket one. I don't know what it is that they feed pigs in the US. It's just awful. I used to eat lots of pork growing up. No more.

Some of the butcher shops do carry specific items that supermarkets don't (like chicken pate, hot shots, decent pierogis, etc.), so I do still shop there once in a while, but not for basic meats.


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Re: Walmart Beef [Re: Duffyjr] #5285926 12/05/19 12:31 PM
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my wife and I don't eat much red meat anymore but when we do we usually get it from a local farmer who does his own or we buy at giant eagle...but I sure do see a lot of meat going out the door at walmart

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I only buy motor oil ,filters and wiper blades from Walmart and only go about twice a year. I have zero interest of shopping there. I almost forgot dog flea drops also.


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Occasionally Walmart has their Angus Prime Rib roasts on for a $4 (US) a lb. 5 Hours at 275F, uncovered on a rack, roast in the oven. Those are quite good.
For ground meat I get the Costco stew beef package and pork butt and grind my own, about a 60%-40% ratio beef and pork.


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Originally Posted by Danno
Occasionally Walmart has their Angus Prime Rib roasts on for a $4 (US) a lb. 5 Hours at 275F, uncovered on a rack, roast in the oven. Those are quite good.
For ground meat I get the Costco stew beef package and pork butt and grind my own, about a 60%-40% ratio beef and pork.


For $4 per LB your not getting real PRIME rib I can assure you. Your getting a standing rib roast...same cut but not USDA Prime beef. Likely choice or select.

Prime rib has become a generic term for standing rib roast when in reality only a standing rib roast of USDA Prime beef is "prime rib".

Semantics...but it makes all the difference in the world. My wife called me to tell me Aldi had prime rib for $3.99 per lb. I informed her it wasn't prime rib and then told her to buy every one they had LOL. Meat was great...but it wasn't prime


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Re: Walmart Beef [Re: ragtoplvr] #5286002 12/05/19 01:33 PM
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The thing I do not like about Walmart meat is the fluid saturated diaper that I pay for by the pound. Water is cheap, I do not like paying beep prices for water.

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That's called a "soaker". It's purpose is to soak up the blood, juices, and yes, depending on the cut, probably some water. Nearly everyone uses them. If it wasn't there you would be complaining about leaky packing.

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