Is it really M1 ESP X1 0W30?

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I just picked up a case of this what I think is this oil but I see no "X1" anywhere on the box or bottle and there is no certifications listed (except for ACEA C3). (The M1 ESP X1 0W30 has a bevy of certifications shown in the online TDS eg 504/507).

(I believe there was a previous ESP 0W30 formulation but this box shows a date of 2018. I wouldn't think there would be an M1 ESP 0W30 AND an M1 ESP X1 0W30 simultaneously).

Do I have the X1 version?

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I remember seeing that X1 designation some time ago (meaning years) for a flavor of M1 0W30 and being confused by it.
I really can only guess at this point, but I'd have to think that X1 is an older formulation and this 0W30 is newer (like how 5W30 ESP Formula has seemingly been replaced with just plain 5W30 ESP).
 
That must be a newer lot. My labeling verbiage states 2014, yours 2018. Mine is marked ESP x1 on the front label.
 
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Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
It's very surprising to me that the bottle shown in the OP is a quart and not a liter!!


Maybe because it is made in the US of A?
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Originally Posted by 21Rouge
I just picked up a case of this what I think is this oil but I see no "X1" anywhere on the box or bottle and there is no certifications listed (except for ACEA C3). (The M1 ESP X1 0W30 has a bevy of certifications shown in the online TDS eg 504/507).

(I believe there was a previous ESP 0W30 formulation but this box shows a date of 2018. I wouldn't think there would be an M1 ESP 0W30 AND an M1 ESP X1 0W30 simultaneously).

Do I have the X1 version?


They (used to) run simultaneously.

https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevo...w&mark=229.51&suchbegriff=229.51

https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevo...w&mark=229.52&suchbegriff=229.52

Until the older trade name certification expires (5 years) they will both remain on the resp. approval list(even if the older one is already unavailable on the market).
 
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My bottle from 2014 is marked:

ACEA C2, C3
MB-Approval 229.52
MB-Approval 229.51
MB Approval 229.31

Made in the USA from domestic and/or imported components.
 
Originally Posted by 21Rouge
Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
It's very surprising to me that the bottle shown in the OP is a quart and not a liter!!

Maybe because it is made in the US of A?
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Good point...I just assumed that something with lots of Euro approvals would be in liters.
 
Originally Posted by demarpaint
My bottle from 2014 is marked:

ACEA C2, C3
MB-Approval 229.52
MB-Approval 229.51
MB Approval 229.31


Whereas my bottle shows only C3
 
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
If they both have the spec you need, does it really matter?


No it doesnt.

But I am curious why none of the MB or VW certs. are shown on the bottle
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Originally Posted by Rollins
Originally Posted by 21Rouge
I just picked up a case of this what I think is this oil but I see no "X1" anywhere on the box or bottle and there is no certifications listed (except for ACEA C3). (The M1 ESP X1 0W30 has a bevy of certifications shown in the online TDS eg 504/507).

(I believe there was a previous ESP 0W30 formulation but this box shows a date of 2018. I wouldn't think there would be an M1 ESP 0W30 AND an M1 ESP X1 0W30 simultaneously).

Do I have the X1 version?


They (used to) run simultaneously.



I got some good information from Exxon Mobil:

And I quote:

Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 is the replacement product for Mobil 1 ESP X1 0W-30. Please find attached the official Imperial oil communication regarding this change.

The bottle does not have the specifications listed on it but the product is certified for all the listed applications on the previously provided link.
 

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Originally Posted by 21Rouge
Originally Posted by edyvw
So new bottle does not list approvals?


Correct.


Use scan ?

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Originally Posted by 4WD
Originally Posted by 21Rouge
Originally Posted by edyvw
So new bottle does not list approvals?


Correct.


Use scan ?



I dont understand
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