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Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l #5134125 06/14/19 02:46 PM
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What is the best available 0w-20 oil by it's chemical and physical properties for a Nissan Titan XD 5.6L V8 Direct Injected engine with OEM 5k OCI's?, priced up to $60 for a 5 quart jug.

I am on a Titan XD forum and this question gets asked.

I have been using ZEPRO Eco Medalist Advanced Moly 0W-20SN Engine Oil - that I discussed in another thread - this oil has a good amount of moly which may help this engine because of the gears and it's camshafts are driven by two chains, one for each head plus the timing chain that transmits the rotational movement from crankshaft to the both intake and exhaust camshafts - (so in theory this engine maybe be tough on oil). This oil also has a 215 VI so it's pretty light but it has a high Noack Volatility of 14% - not great for DI's.

So all in for a Dual OHV Direct Injected (carbon deposits on the values?) V8 truck engine that is fairly tough oil what the best oil by spec's to use in the 0w-20 viscosity range? and why? is it a low Noack number, low Calcium number, low Ash number, best additive package to reduce wear...……...

I was also wondering how Amsoil SSO 0w-20 and 5w-20 would stack-up in your recommendations.

ZEPRO Eco Medalist - with Amsoil below:




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Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: josephp732] #5134129 06/14/19 02:53 PM
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Supposedly Quaker Sate Ultimate Durability 0W-20 has a very impressive package?

I wouldn't hesitate for a second to run it in anything that needed a 0w-20 or 5W-20 rated oil.


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Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: josephp732] #5134172 06/14/19 03:54 PM
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When did Nissan move to 20 weight.

Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: josephp732] #5134185 06/14/19 04:06 PM
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2017 the oil spec for the 5.6l V8 changed went from 5w-30 to 0w-20.. This was in-line with the revamp of this engine. The previous 5.6l V-8 produced 317 hp and 385 lb.-ft of torque. The revamped 5.6l engine now produces 390 hp at 5,800 rpm and 394 lb.-ft. of torque. Nissan added direct injection that provided the majority of the power gains. They also raised the compression ratio to 11.2:1 from 9.8:1 and added variable valve event and lift with multi-control valve tech.

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Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: josephp732] #5134187 06/14/19 04:08 PM
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Schaeffers 0w20

A 5 gallon pail can be had for $150 +/-
12 at case for $120 +/-
Free shipping with prime

High Moly content
Noack at 12.58%

TDS can be found here https://www.schaefferoil.com/9005-full-synthetic.html


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Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: josephp732] #5134189 06/14/19 04:09 PM
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You may want to use an SN+ oil that’s formulated for LSPI. I’m not sure if the AMSOIL SSO Formulation is updated to those specs?

I’m sure someone else here knows


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Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: josephp732] #5134236 06/14/19 05:03 PM
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Schaeffers 0w20 looks like interesting option, SN Plus and high Moly with some Zinc - reading through the links your sent they call-out "formulated to help with chain and valve train wear" and helping with LSPI. - Noack is a bit better than what I am using - they report ash at .82% - Thank you for posting.

Here are the Spec's:




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Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: josephp732] #5134390 06/14/19 08:20 PM
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check your owners manual, a xxW30 may still be approved to keep your warranty. myself i would never use any xxW20 oils except in minnesota or alaskan winters!! i live next door in Pa + 10-30 is good to zero degrees + 5-30 will be a bit better, fake synthetic of course, real synthetic like Redline if you want the best! look at the poor HTHS of the "skinny" oils, thats the oil film thickness that protects parts, + its been noted xxW 30W oils keep chains "happier" longer

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Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: josephp732] #5134676 06/15/19 07:36 AM
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Zero reference to any other viscosity oil in the owners manual, from my owners manual:

Selecting the correct oil.
It is essential to choose the correct grade, quality and viscosity engine oil to ensure satisfactory engine life and performance.
For additional information, refer to “Recommended fluids/lubricants and capacities”

Recommended fluids/lubricants and capacities - Gasoline engine models:
• Genuine “Nissan Motor Oil 0W-20 SN” is recommended.
• If the above motor oil is not available, use an equivalent motor oil that matches the above grade and viscosity.

Oil viscosity
The engine oil viscosity or thickness changes with temperature. Because of this, it is important to select the engine oil viscosity based on the temperatures at which the vehicle will be operated before the next oil change. Choosing an oil viscosity other than that recommended could cause serious engine damage.

In the warranty discoursers and noted in the not covered section " any failure resulting from... use of improper or contaminated fuels, fluids or lubricants; failure to maintain proper fluid, coolant or lubricant levels; use of inferior or modified parts; modifications of the vehicle beyond the original factory specification, including installation of non-Nissan approved accessories or components...."

Plus this text all in capitals " FAILURE TO PROVIDE SUCH EVIDENCE AND/OR FAILURE TO MAINTIAN THE VECHCLE IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR OWNER'S MANUAL MAY DISQUALIFY YOU FROM COVERAGE"


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Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: josephp732] #5134792 06/15/19 10:02 AM
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Shell Rotella Gas Truck 0W20
Bit thicker with lots of Moly and Boron. Good zinc levels for a modern GF-5 oil.
It’s rated SN+ and Dexos1-Gen2

Here is a link to a VOA
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5035462/


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Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: josephp732] #5134911 06/15/19 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by josephp732
Zero reference to any other viscosity oil in the owners manual, from my owners manual:

Selecting the correct oil.
It is essential to choose the correct grade, quality and viscosity engine oil to ensure satisfactory engine life and performance.
For additional information, refer to “Recommended fluids/lubricants and capacities”

Recommended fluids/lubricants and capacities - Gasoline engine models:
• Genuine “Nissan Motor Oil 0W-20 SN” is recommended.
• If the above motor oil is not available, use an equivalent motor oil that matches the above grade and viscosity.

Oil viscosity
The engine oil viscosity or thickness changes with temperature. Because of this, it is important to select the engine oil viscosity based on the temperatures at which the vehicle will be operated before the next oil change. Choosing an oil viscosity other than that recommended could cause serious engine damage.

In the warranty discoursers and noted in the not covered section " any failure resulting from... use of improper or contaminated fuels, fluids or lubricants; failure to maintain proper fluid, coolant or lubricant levels; use of inferior or modified parts; modifications of the vehicle beyond the original factory specification, including installation of non-Nissan approved accessories or components...."

Plus this text all in capitals " FAILURE TO PROVIDE SUCH EVIDENCE AND/OR FAILURE TO MAINTIAN THE VECHCLE IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR OWNER'S MANUAL MAY DISQUALIFY YOU FROM COVERAGE"




Typical owners manual garbage. This will get shredded against any warranty claim key verbage is always "may, shall, recommend" and a few more.


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don't use.
Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: benjy] #5134915 06/15/19 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by benjy
check your owners manual, a xxW30 may still be approved to keep your warranty. myself i would never use any xxW20 oils except in minnesota or alaskan winters!! i live next door in Pa + 10-30 is good to zero degrees + 5-30 will be a bit better, fake synthetic of course, real synthetic like Redline if you want the best! look at the poor HTHS of the "skinny" oils, thats the oil film thickness that protects parts, + its been noted xxW 30W oils keep chains "happier" longer



Why do you insist a non approved anything Red Line is somehow the best?


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: josephp732] #5134923 06/15/19 01:03 PM
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There are pretty stout engines no? Either case it’s a cool truck brother!

Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: dave1251] #5134942 06/15/19 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by benjy
check your owners manual, a xxW30 may still be approved to keep your warranty. myself i would never use any xxW20 oils except in minnesota or alaskan winters!! i live next door in Pa + 10-30 is good to zero degrees + 5-30 will be a bit better, fake synthetic of course, real synthetic like Redline if you want the best! look at the poor HTHS of the "skinny" oils, thats the oil film thickness that protects parts, + its been noted xxW 30W oils keep chains "happier" longer



Why do you insist a non approved anything Red Line is somehow the best?


Redline isnt a bad oil.
But for warranty purposes, I'd atleast find an API certified oil.


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Re: Best Oil in Specifications for a Nissan 5.6l [Re: josephp732] #5135724 06/16/19 01:25 PM
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I think way to much calcium in Redline. The goal needs to be a low calcium, low ash - mitigates LSPI, high Moly/Zinc anti-wear for the gears and chains and low Noack.

Any other recommendations?

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