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Why would 10w burn more than 5w? #5081649
04/21/19 11:57 AM
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D1dad Offline OP
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I posted awhile back about my 09 Nissan 2.5 using oil and always has. I have always ran 5w30, all variety but mostly synthetic. At the advice of some members I opted to use 10-30, (M1HM). I’m a hair less than 500 miles on this oil and the car has burnt a half quart. The 5-30 usually used, give or take 3/4 to a quart every 1-1500k. I’m stumped?

Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: D1dad] #5081680
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Originally Posted by D1dad
I posted awhile back about my 09 Nissan 2.5 using oil and always has. I have always ran 5w30, all variety but mostly synthetic. At the advice of some members I opted to use 10-30, (M1HM). I’m a hair less than 500 miles on this oil and the car has burnt a half quart. The 5-30 usually used, give or take 3/4 to a quart every 1-1500k. I’m stumped?


It doesn't matter what oil weight you use your rings never seated.


2004 Corolla 132004
Out: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 7156 Miles
In: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 3-14-19 129693
2006 Duramax 74840
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: D1dad] #5081682
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posted awhile back about my 09 Nissan 2.5 using oil and always has. I have always ran 5w30, all variety but mostly synthetic. At the advice of some members I opted to use 10-30, (M1HM). I’m a hair less than 500 miles on this oil and the car has burnt a half quart. The 5-30 usually used, give or take 3/4 to a quart every 1-1500k. I’m stumped


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What brand of 5w30 did you use?
Have you any prior experience with M-1 in this engine?

Last edited by Triple_Se7en; 04/21/19 12:31 PM.

19 Hyundai SantaFe 2.4GDI Castrol Edge 5w30 / NAPA Mann-Hummel filter / 6oz Liqui-Moly Treatment
04 Colorado 3.5 Castrol Edge 0W40 Euro & K&N filter
03 Malibu 3.1 QS / Valv Syn 5w30 mix Fram EG filter
Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #5081685
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted by D1dad
I posted awhile back about my 09 Nissan 2.5 using oil and always has. I have always ran 5w30, all variety but mostly synthetic. At the advice of some members I opted to use 10-30, (M1HM). I’m a hair less than 500 miles on this oil and the car has burnt a half quart. The 5-30 usually used, give or take 3/4 to a quart every 1-1500k. I’m stumped?


It doesn't matter what oil weight you use your rings never seated.


This does sound likely. If it has consumed since day 1, there's nothing an oil is going to do to stop it, as there is likely something wrong with the engine, like say ring seating, as noted.


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Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: D1dad] #5081703
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Prior consumption of 3/4 to a quart every 1,000 or 1,500 miles would be considered acceptable by many car makers. That said, if you switched brands and viscosity, let the new oil settle in for at least one full OCI. Depending on the result, you may want to go back to your old brand.


2013 Honda Accord LX, 61K
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2007 Infiniti M35, 109K
Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: D1dad] #5081708
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Is this the first oil change to Mobil 1? My experience over the years is going to Mobil 1 after using another oil brand I've experienced "some" oil usage. With the second oil change with Mobil 1 the oil usage stopped. Since you've been using oil all along I don't think the Mobil1 will stop it but at worst it'll improve from what you are experiencing with the first Mobil 1 oil change with the second Mobil 1 oil change.

Whimsey

Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: D1dad] #5081713
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If it has been doing this since day one with no possible intervention by Nissan then I would use a less expensive oil from here on out.


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Havoline Pro DS 0w20
Roki OEM filter.
Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: NormanBuntz] #5081714
04/21/19 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NormanBuntz
Prior consumption of 3/4 to a quart every 1,000 or 1,500 miles would be considered acceptable by many car makers. .


Because they support their wallets not their customers or the products they build.


2004 Corolla 132004
Out: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 7156 Miles
In: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 3-14-19 129693
2006 Duramax 74840
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: Whimsey] #5081727
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These discussions are foreign to me … used M1 for decades and no consumption in anything

Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: D1dad] #5081730
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I drove my first 528e from 150K miles to 350 Kmiles with an oil leak that used a qt every 1500 miles. That is when I discovered Supertech dino. grin2


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1994 Ranger ,the Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

'16 Camry SE, Valvoline HM 0w20 and OEM filter
Thick oil is better grin2
Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: PimTac] #5081798
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Originally Posted by PimTac
If it has been doing this since day one with no possible intervention by Nissan then I would use a less expensive oil from here on out.

Me too. No oil is fixing improperly seated rings.


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Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: D1dad] #5081834
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I agree with some (NormanBuntz and Whimsey) about giving it an OCI or two to settle down.


'98 LEX LS400 295K
'02 4Runner 235K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'07 Lex GX470 65K

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Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: D1dad] #5081852
04/21/19 03:28 PM
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I have experienced oil comsumption and RMS leaks in several cars after using M1 high mileage. These are cars with high mileage. What used to be a wettish area below the RMS became a line of oil. I have a bunch of it and as I use it up I am switching to plain old shell clean engine dino oil from HD for $10 for 5 quarts or other brand synthetic stuff on sale.

Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: D1dad] #5081899
04/21/19 04:23 PM
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At least here in EU 5w oils are in 99.9% synthetic (grp. III and more)....and 10w are most often semisyn (XHVI...)

We dont know 5w conventional oils...unless they are imported from over the pond (B&S....)

Maybe thats your case here...


2008 Toyota Yaris 1ND-TV 1.4 D4-D Elf FullTech FE 5w30
1997 Toyota Landcruiser KZJ95 3.0 TD Shell Rimula R6M 10w40
Re: Why would 10w burn more than 5w? [Re: D1dad] #5081961
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The first time I tried high mileage oil in my Caprice (m1 5w30 because it was the start of winter) it seemed to use more the first thousand miles. The last 2k miles it seemed to go back to normal. First time I've ever really noticed this phenomenon.


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