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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix? [Re: dave1251] #5066901
04/07/19 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by daman
Thanks guys, Trav I do believe the MoS2 will be a benefit as the 0w40 is lacking some IMO for this application, I do plan on shortening the OCI to 5k tops and using a FRAM ultra.



Other than advertising hype do you have evidence MoS2 does anything?

Well sure, Mo is a friction modifyer is added to oil in the first place right? if there is no benefit why is it there.


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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix? [Re: daman] #5066911
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Originally Posted by daman
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by daman
Thanks guys, Trav I do believe the MoS2 will be a benefit as the 0w40 is lacking some IMO for this application, I do plan on shortening the OCI to 5k tops and using a FRAM ultra.



Other than advertising hype do you have evidence MoS2 does anything?

Well sure, Mo is a friction modifyer is added to oil in the first place right? if there is no benefit why is it there.



What benefit is it for you to add it? You did not research, develop, test, and refine it while adding it to a finished product. At best it's doing no harm.


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix? [Re: daman] #5066913
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Moly is already in the oil along with other friction modifiers.


2017 Mazda CX5
Havoline Pro DS 0w20
Roki OEM filter.
Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix? [Re: daman] #5067050
04/07/19 01:24 PM
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My understanding, from reading this forum, was that motor oils that have certain additives, would have those additives cancelled out if you add another additive-filled lubricant to the mix. Am I understanding that wrong? At the most, I couldn't imagine it doing any harm to the engine, but, it wouldn't benefit it, either.


2005 Ford Explorer AWD - 169,920 miles (Pennzoil Plat. HM 5W-30)
1995 Mercury Cougar XR7 - 58,593 miles (Mobil 5000 10W-40)
2016 Volkswagen Jetta - 31,200 miles (Carquest Full Syn. 5W-30)
Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix? [Re: daman] #5067063
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According to this topic...

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...additives-are-best-for-timing-chain-life

I would seek for sae40 oils with higher MoDTC levels....and would do OCIs between 10-15kkms (dunno how many miles is that :P )

Has anybody posted Rotella T6 15w40 VOA yet?


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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix? [Re: Puckrobber] #5067159
04/07/19 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Puckrobber
My understanding, from reading this forum, was that motor oils that have certain additives, would have those additives cancelled out if you add another additive-filled lubricant to the mix. Am I understanding that wrong? At the most, I couldn't imagine it doing any harm to the engine, but, it wouldn't benefit it, either.

Baloney! Your vehicle will run (possibly even better) blending multi oil brands and multi viscosities. I've been doing it for 30 years and I'm first and last owner of my vehicles.


But.... keep in-mind, I've never exceeded 7K OCIs. OCIs of my length are how you keep the same vehicle and never even change valve cover gaskets, in 18 or-so years of driving it. I don;t even get sludge at 7K. Nor do I get streaky oil, smelly oil, burnt oil or sooty oil..... all signs of something bad going on with your oil and/or engine.

But Pt 2..... I now own a GDI engine. So that non-sooty mention may end someday.....lol


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Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5067393
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted by Puckrobber
My understanding, from reading this forum, was that motor oils that have certain additives, would have those additives cancelled out if you add another additive-filled lubricant to the mix. Am I understanding that wrong? At the most, I couldn't imagine it doing any harm to the engine, but, it wouldn't benefit it, either.

Baloney! Your vehicle will run (possibly even better) blending multi oil brands and multi viscosities. I've been doing it for 30 years and I'm first and last owner of my vehicles.


But.... keep in-mind, I've never exceeded 7K OCIs. OCIs of my length are how you keep the same vehicle and never even change valve cover gaskets, in 18 or-so years of driving it. I don;t even get sludge at 7K. Nor do I get streaky oil, smelly oil, burnt oil or sooty oil..... all signs of something bad going on with your oil and/or engine.

But Pt 2..... I now own a GDI engine. So that non-sooty mention may end someday.....lol


Oh, I know mixing oil brands and viscosities is OK. Plenty of Frankenbrews on this forum. I was just wondering about extra fluids like oil treatments or "super concentrated extra moly" boosters that claim to help your engine. Can't imagine they'd be worth the price and effort. I miss the days of just using a great oil and not worrying if it has enough of this, that or anything else. 😊


2005 Ford Explorer AWD - 169,920 miles (Pennzoil Plat. HM 5W-30)
1995 Mercury Cougar XR7 - 58,593 miles (Mobil 5000 10W-40)
2016 Volkswagen Jetta - 31,200 miles (Carquest Full Syn. 5W-30)
Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix? [Re: Puckrobber] #5067402
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“Oh, I know mixing oil brands and viscosities is OK. Plenty of Frankenbrews on this forum. I was just wondering about extra fluids like oil treatments or "super concentrated extra moly" boosters that claim to help your engine. Can't imagine they'd be worth the price and effort. I miss the days of just using a great oil and not worrying if it has enough of this, that or anything else.”




Todays oils are better than ever. You really do not need to add anything.


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Havoline Pro DS 0w20
Roki OEM filter.
Re: DOHC/Timing chain Mix? [Re: daman] #5067491
04/07/19 08:13 PM
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Thanks, Pim! 😉


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1995 Mercury Cougar XR7 - 58,593 miles (Mobil 5000 10W-40)
2016 Volkswagen Jetta - 31,200 miles (Carquest Full Syn. 5W-30)
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