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Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: hemitom] #5048257
03/19/19 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hemitom
Originally Posted by PPWarrior
Never use SOPUS (Shell, Penn, Quaker) its been proven that the wax forms at the bottom of the oil pan. Even here some users posted pictures of PPU bottles plugged with wax.

Just so that you can make a better informed decision.


I really hope your kidding!! such a misinformed pile of information..

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Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: chromedome] #5048287
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I would recommend a 10W40 motorcycle MA1 or MA2. good solid lifer protection and Good anti corrosion because bikes tend to sit alot.

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Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: chromedome] #5048292
03/19/19 07:22 PM
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I run a 50 weight because these engine tolerances are sloppy.

The 50 weight gives me decent oil pressure on hot summer days when idling in traffic.

The 5 weight is beneficial when turning over the engine in the winters, or a drive occasionally.

I have also heard of the Rotella being used as well.

Unfortunately you not find a consensus when dealing with older cars.

Oh yeah, I also add a quart of Valvoline 40 weight racing oil...has heavy zinc

Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: chromedome] #5048311
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Why y'all suggesting straight grade? 5w30 mo' betta than SAE 30

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Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: chromedome] #5048316
03/19/19 07:58 PM
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This thread is tainted by sludge in my opinion
After the person who stated pennzoil causes sludge I'm thinking here we go again and its 2019.
. And that's all I can think about now...lol. beautiful car by the way. Love it.

Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: chromedome] #5048377
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These engines really don't need extra ZDDP...the level of it in '30s thru '50s oil was pretty low, and today's oils have much better add packs to prevent wear. I also would have concerns about ND oil previously being used, but it sounds like you really don't have access to that info. Personally (as the owner of a 230 myself), if it were mine, I'd pick a quality 10W30 and run it. Keep a close eye on it, and if it gets dirty quickly, maybe change the bypass filter early.


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Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: chromedome] #5048382
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The best advice here so far is to be sure the oil has zinc, we use 20 50 dino or 15 40 diesel.











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Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: chromedome] #5048398
03/19/19 09:19 PM
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i was thinking a 15W40 with Moly

I run a Texas Refinery Pro -Spec III with MOLY in my 1966 Mustang. Wear metals come back real nice.


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Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: chromedome] #5048399
03/19/19 09:20 PM
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Additional Zinc is generally needed for higher pressure valve springs.
Even a decent 10w30 dino oil is OK for the stockers; Rotella works well.
I especially like the detergent...


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Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: bullwinkle] #5048447
03/19/19 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle
Oil filter ever used? Has it been run on non-detergent oil it's whole life? If extensive use of ND oil has occurred, I think I would stick with ND oil-otherwise you may start dislodging a lot of stuff inside...


As little as he drives it - and as often as he'll PROBABLY change the oil per months/years (with very little mileage) that won't be a problem.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: Chris142] #5048449
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Originally Posted by Chris142

Today's nd oils are also missing antiwear addatives. I would not use them in an engine today.....


*SOME* ND-30 might be OK. I know the Napa stuff is a very good "base oil' - but, yes - no additives.

I'd honestly run Rotella 15W-40 or Delo 15w-40 myself


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: JeffKeryk] #5048451
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Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
Additional Zinc is generally needed for higher pressure valve springs.


But this car has very, very, very, very weak pressure valve springs


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: SnowDrifter] #5048491
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Originally Posted by SnowDrifter
Why y'all suggesting straight grade? 5w30 mo' betta than SAE 30

I know that it sounds weird but they seem " happier" with straight oils. Thats what they were designed for.

My 1957 case tractor does not "sound" good with multi weight oils. It has better oil pressure with sae30 than it had with 15w-40.


02 Wrangler traveler sae30
87 F250 Valvoline 15w40
07 fjcruiser Chevron 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor Chevron sae30
Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: zrxkawboy] #5048492
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Originally Posted by zrxkawboy
These engines really don't need extra ZDDP...the level of it in '30s thru '50s oil was pretty low, and today's oils have much better add packs to prevent wear. I also would have concerns about ND oil previously being used, but it sounds like you really don't have access to that info. Personally (as the owner of a 230 myself), if it were mine, I'd pick a quality 10W30 and run it. Keep a close eye on it, and if it gets dirty quickly, maybe change the bypass filter early.


Do these have oil pressure fed rods or dippers?


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87 F250 Valvoline 15w40
07 fjcruiser Chevron 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor Chevron sae30
Re: Oil recommendations for old car [Re: PPWarrior] #5048511
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Originally Posted by PPWarrior
Never use SOPUS (Shell, Penn, Quaker) its been proven that the wax forms at the bottom of the oil pan. Even here some users posted pictures of PPU bottles plugged with wax.

Just so that you can make a better informed decision.



How does it feel to post blatantly false information?


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
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