Originally Posted by KrisZ
Originally Posted by Zee09
Originally Posted by StevieC
I'll believe it when I see it. Until then it's "hope"... "300,000 plan to buy". I have a feeling they are going to get stuck with lots of inventory unless they lower the price.
I agree. If this board is a sampling of the buying public , it ain't going to fly.
I suspect next year you will see a big rebate.
P!us it really isn't that small of a truck.
I highly doubt this board is a good representation of the buying public. Anyone interested in oil, general vehicle maintenance, fluids etc. is right off the bat not an average car owner.
Indeed the typical poster to this thread will say a pick-up should be 15K with the GM 3.8. Along with a 5 Speed manual, manual windows and locks. To them automobile technology peaked in 1985.
Originally Posted by littlehulkster
Originally Posted by oilpsi2high
For what I use my truck for, which is towing heavy loads in mountainous terrain, I just cannot imagine a turbocharged gas engine and automatic trans designed for passenger car duty lasting very long under those types of conditions. I can't afford to buy a new truck every three years, so I hang onto mine for as long as I can. My friend had an F150 Ecoboost and used it exactly like I use mine, and he went through three engines. It was a nightmare to get warranty work done, the dealer tried using every excuse in the book to not do the repairs on this new truck. He had to resort to social media and ultimately Ford caught wind of the situation and ended up buying the truck back. He drives a GM Diesel now.
If I had to go new today, I'd probably try to find a Silverado with a 5.3 that doesn't have the AFM. They brought it back on the 2019's and I still don't trust it. I know you can tune it out, etc. but I want a vehicle that's 100% stock, unmolested that I can drive for 200,000 miles and/or until it rusts out.
Honestly, if I wanted a half ton and had the money, I'd go straight for a Tundra. It's been the most reliable half ton truck in America for just about as long as it's existed. Sure, it may not have all the new whiz bang tech, and it's not as powerful as some competition, but it does everything well enough and basically never breaks. That would probably be why dealers can ask, and get, such ridiculous prices for them. Used Tundras are especially bad. Around here, 10+ year old Tundras with over 200k still sell for 10 grand or more. Still not as bad as Land Cruisers, though. Those things would probably cost less if they were made of solid gold.
Yep the new whiz bang technology on newer higher performance trucks is failing at near the same rate as the Tundra. The difference is the whiz bang stuff is selling around 5 times higher than the Tundra.