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Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma #4977071
01/12/19 01:48 PM
01/12/19 01:48 PM
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Kendall, FL
wemay Offline OP
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Kendall, FL
What about this oil frustrates you most?

a. hard to find in stores
b. no more Noack info
c. no dexos cert
d. not labelled as an extended drain oil
f. what makes it better than Platinum

I just bought some on Amazon for $24 ea. w/free shipping. Decent deal.

Last edited by wemay; 01/12/19 01:49 PM.

18 Sportage 2.4L AWD:
Now: M1AP 5/20 + M1-104
Next: QSUD 5/30 + S2808XL

13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T:
Now: EDGE 5/40 + OEM
Next: Same
Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: wemay] #4977075
01/12/19 01:53 PM
01/12/19 01:53 PM
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ON, Canada eh?
StevieC Online content
StevieC  Online Content
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ON, Canada eh?
I just don't understand why oil company's don't do a better job at spot checking their retailers that sell their products. It's an epidemic problem everywhere that they seem to always be out of one or multiple grades or brands. I just don't get it.

Last edited by StevieC; 01/12/19 01:53 PM.

'18 Dodge Grand Caravan GT - 18k KM - AMSOIL SS 0w30
'06 Hyundai Santa Fe - 535k KM (Dead) - AMSOIL SS 0w30
Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: wemay] #4977088
01/12/19 02:16 PM
01/12/19 02:16 PM
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Texas
4WD Online confused
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Texas
e. Louder than M1 in two of my engines

Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: wemay] #4977106
01/12/19 02:36 PM
01/12/19 02:36 PM
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Waco, TX
Linctex Offline
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I have some that I bought from Walmart online (Then SOPUS wouldn't accept info from WM for rebate)

I haven't run it yet.

I'm currently running the Mobil 1 AP 5W-20 that was $10 a jug on clearance from AutoZone


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: wemay] #4977108
01/12/19 02:36 PM
01/12/19 02:36 PM
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New England
Virtus_Probi Online mad
Virtus_Probi  Online Mad
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New England
c+. No d1G2 OR SN+ cert!
;^)


2014 Forester XT, 95000 miles
Last Change;
M1 0W30 AFE d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: wemay] #4977125
01/12/19 02:49 PM
01/12/19 02:49 PM
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The Old North State
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The Old North State
Originally Posted by wemay
...what makes it better than Platinum ....
Other than Pennzoil putting it at the top the oil chain, no idea. PP now SN+, no reason for me to pay more. That said, I'm sure it's a quality synthetic oil.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: wemay] #4977137
01/12/19 02:55 PM
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Is it really better than Pennzoil Platinum?


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: wemay] #4977146
01/12/19 03:02 PM
01/12/19 03:02 PM
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Posts: 2,416
Northern Ontario, Canada
Danno Offline
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Northern Ontario, Canada
What's Pennzoil Ultra?
Unless Pennzoil wants to put a ton of money into a product refresh, for what end game?
Time to kill it.


2016 Sorento SX V6 AWD
2015 KIA RIO SX
2010 Mazda 3 2.0L
2009 Venza V6 AWD
2013 Sonata 2.4L RIP in write-off crash
Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: PimTac] #4977148
01/12/19 03:07 PM
01/12/19 03:07 PM
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New England
Virtus_Probi Online mad
Virtus_Probi  Online Mad
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New England
Originally Posted by PimTac
Is it really better than Pennzoil Platinum?

I think SOPUS was strongly touting PUP keeping engines super clean when it was new...I think that was why it was the "best".
I noticed the published Noack loss for PUP 5W30 was slightly higher than PP 5W30 when they were brand new and thought that was kind of weird for the "best" oil...but, of course, Noack loss is not everything!
Those who have been obsessing about oils for a while might remember that the "old" Pennzoil Ultra 5W30 (non-GTL and not Platinum) was viewed as a super oil with a low 6.6% Noack loss (per the PQIA), an excellent CCS viscosity for the grade, lots of Boron, etc. I never got a chance to try it...may not have been the best choice for my engine with a big dose of calcium, though.


2014 Forester XT, 95000 miles
Last Change;
M1 0W30 AFE d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: wemay] #4977160
01/12/19 03:24 PM
01/12/19 03:24 PM
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Posts: 3,105
WI.
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WI.
if your looking for a good full strength SN motor oil this is it, I'd like some 10/30 for the T4R @$10 a/r.


16 Civic Coupe Touring 38k
640:1 TCW-3 E091
Edge 0/40 XG7317
Firehawk Indy 500

06 4Runner SR5 146k
640:1 TCW-3
PP 5/30 XG3614
Falken Wildpeak AT3W
Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: wemay] #4977161
01/12/19 03:24 PM
01/12/19 03:24 PM
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Colorado
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Colorado
I don't know much about Dexos, but under the specs tab, it says it's Dexos 1 approved. Not sure how that differs from Dexos 2.

https://www.pennzoil.com/en_ca/products/full-synthetic-motor-oils/pennzoil-ultra-platinum.html

Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: 4WD] #4977167
01/12/19 03:29 PM
01/12/19 03:29 PM
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Posts: 21,311
Oakville, Ontario
Patman Online content
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Originally Posted by 4WD
e. Louder than M1 in two of my engines


I found the opposite with my Honda. I was running M1 0w20 AFE and now am running Ultra 5w20 and I find that the engine runs a bit smoother and valve train noise is slightly less.

Ultra is not hard to find at all up here, although for many years it completely disappeared from the shelves. It's always been a confusing oil, and these days with it not having the dexos certification is does make the average person wonder if it's better than Platinum or not.

As far as "no noack info", that's something that can be said for pretty much every oil these days other than the smaller boutique oils like Amsoil. Nobody seems to want to release noack anymore, maybe because the newest oils aren't quite as good in this regard lately?


2018 Corvette, 9k, M1 ESP Formula 5w30 & NAPA Gold
2006 Civic EX Coupe, 148k, PUP 5w20 & Fram Ultra
2010 BMW 328i X-Drive,111k, GC 0w40 & Fram Ultra

Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: Patman] #4977169
01/12/19 03:30 PM
01/12/19 03:30 PM
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Colorado
JerryBob Offline
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Colorado
Originally Posted by Patman
Originally Posted by 4WD
e. Louder than M1 in two of my engines


I found the opposite with my Honda. I was running M1 0w20 AFE and now am running Ultra 5w20 and I find that the engine runs a bit smoother and valve train noise is slightly less.

Ultra is not hard to find at all up here, although for many years it completely disappeared from the shelves. It's always been a confusing oil, and these days with it not having the dexos certification is does make the average person wonder if it's better than Platinum or not.

As far as "no noack info", that's something that can be said for pretty much every oil these days other than the smaller boutique oils like Amsoil. Nobody seems to want to release noack anymore, maybe because the newest oils aren't quite as good in this regard lately?


Same with my 2002 Honda Odyssey. It calls for 5W20, but I use 5W30. The Mobil-1 5W30 is noticeably louder than the PUP in the same grade.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: wemay] #4977175
01/12/19 03:38 PM
01/12/19 03:38 PM
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Glendale, Arizona
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Glendale, Arizona
I run Pennzoil Platinum in my Jeep. I would run the Ultra Platinum but my Wal-Mart doesn't stock it. I buy based on convenience, and of course, price. All the chain auto parts stores in my area charge $5 to $10 a jug more for most all their synthetic motor oils. If and when Wal-Mart ever stocks it, I'll buy it.

Re: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum enigma [Re: wemay] #4977179
01/12/19 03:45 PM
01/12/19 03:45 PM
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NY
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NY
I typically buy a 1 year supply from WMT online. I try to time it with a rebate. On occasion if they have a rollback, or another rebate I'll buy more. I currently have about a 2 year supply on hand. I have no plans of buying more at the moment.


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