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Oil change, now leaking 2015 5.7 Hemi #4779797
06/07/18 04:47 AM
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Did an oil change last Saturday using Royal Purple 5W20 and a Royal Purple filter. Car was bought used and previous change at the dealer I bought it from used a Wix Filter, no idea on oil brand.

Got the car up on ramps, removed the plastic protector plate that Dodge users, drained oil and removed filter. The filer was only hand tight as I was a little surprised on how easily I was able to remove it. (Not loose but was able to remove without a filter wrench)

Put drain plug back in and filled the filter with bit of oil, lubed gasket and installed. Usually when I put a filter on it will make contact and I can turn it 3/4 to a full turn to snug it up. Withe the RP filter it seemed to make contact and that was it...didn't feel like I could turn it any more. My hands were slipping between the sweat and oil I had on them so I put a filter cap wrench on and turned it a bit more ( less that a full turn)

Filled up with 7 quarts, started and everything seemed fine. Didn't detect any leaks. Put everything back together and cleaned things up.

The other day I noticed a oil spot where I sometimes park my car at work. Didn't really think much of it. Yesterday while idling in my car I got a whiff of oil...hmmmm...go out and looked...didn't see anything.

This morning I back out of my spot at home and see about a basketball size stain under the car. Whoops....I shined a light underneath and I can see that there is oil all over the plastic cover that shields the below the engine bay. I turn the car off and can hear a faint drip, drip, drip....

At this point I'm running late for work so i put a drip plan under the car and hopped in the Honda to head to work.

My initial guess is the filter is leaking. A quick Google search pulled up some guys with Hemi's in the RAM Forums having leaking issues. According to Royal Purple's website I have the right filter on there. 20-820

I checked my oil and it is just a bit below the full line. I'm guessing what is leaking is pooling on the top of that plastic cover and when stopped it is draining out leaving the spot on my parking spot.

Half of me just want to bring it to the dealer and have them take a look and do another change and hopefully clean up that area. Living in a townhome complex I've already made a bit of a mess with the leak and who know how much of a mess I'm gonna make when I take that cover off.

Think the filter is the culprit??


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Re: Oil change, now leaking 2015 5.7 Hemi [Re: Blue_Goose] #4779809
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It could be leaking from anywhere. The filter and drain plug would be where I looked first. I've always hand tighten the filter and then give it a 1/4 to 1/2 turn with a wrench. I never settled for hand tight filters, although many people do just that and have no problems.


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Re: Oil change, now leaking 2015 5.7 Hemi [Re: Blue_Goose] #4779813
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The filter could be the culprit. The only way to know is get under there and take a look. Was the old filter gasket still on the WIX filter when you removed it? Two filter gaskets donít seal well. There could have been some trash or grit left on the mounting flange and that could cause problems. The new filter gasket may have come out of place when you put it on. If it is the filter, you need a new filter on hand to replace the old one. Youíll need some makeup oil, as well. You wonít lose much oil changing out the filter. Make that change with the engine cold, Finally, clean off all of the blown oil that you can. I almost forgot. Check your drain plug for tightness, torque to spec. The correct Royal Purple filter is the 20-820*FI.

Last edited by MParr; 06/07/18 05:35 AM.

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Re: Oil change, now leaking 2015 5.7 Hemi [Re: Blue_Goose] #4779821
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I made sure that the old gasket did not come off the previous filter and I wiped the seating area down.

I'm thinking I'm going to bring a ton of cardboard boxes home from work and place them under the entire length of the car to avoid any spill disasters. I'll probably stop and pick up a 57899 Wix filter as well as that didn't seem to have any issues or maybe even a Mopar OEM MO-899

I've never changed just a filter before without draining the engine oil first. Should I expect a lot more to come out with a full oil pan vs after being drained? Changing this filter is already a messy task based on where it is located...




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Re: Oil change, now leaking 2015 5.7 Hemi [Re: Blue_Goose] #4779824
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If the filter gasket come off intact with the old filter and itís not the new filter leaking. Check your drain plug for a washer if equipped they do tend to fall off and sometimes roll away from you I once found one halfway down my driveway. Also see if you can get another half a hand turn on that filter


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Re: Oil change, now leaking 2015 5.7 Hemi [Re: mx5miata] #4779830
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Originally Posted By: mx5miata
If the filter gasket come off intact with the old filter and itís not the new filter leaking. Check your drain plug for a washer if equipped they do tend to fall off and sometimes roll away from you I once found one halfway down my driveway. Also see if you can get another half a hand turn on that filter


The drain plug on the Charger doesn't used a washer, it has a self contained rubber grommet (for lack of a better word) built into the plug.

When I took of the Wix 57899 that was on there, I literally was able to remove it with just my hand, no wrench needed. No leaks at all with that filter. When I put the Royal Purple Filter on it felt like once it made contact with the seating area it just stopped. I need a wrench to turn it extra. I can't remember ever having to do that before with an oil filter.

Then again if it was the filter shouldn't I have seen it leaking after I started it and did my check?


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Re: Oil change, now leaking 2015 5.7 Hemi [Re: Blue_Goose] #4779853
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You've done it now, putting a synthetic over a conventional. Let the leaks begin! JK

Sounds like it could be the filter. I have had that happen with a few filters myself.


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Re: Oil change, now leaking 2015 5.7 Hemi [Re: Blue_Goose] #4779864
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Sounds like a filter prob for sure. Go pick up a Fram or if Wal-Mart still has OEM grab a Mopar filter and just top off the amount of oil you lost.


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Re: Oil change, now leaking 2015 5.7 Hemi [Re: Blue_Goose] #4779891
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I seem to recall reading about a similar issue with a RP filter awhile back.


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Re: Oil change, now leaking 2015 5.7 Hemi [Re: Blue_Goose] #4779929
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Did you make sure the gasket came off with the Wix?


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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Did you make sure the gasket came off with the Wix?


Yep! First thing I checked for


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Re: Oil change, now leaking 2015 5.7 Hemi [Re: Blue_Goose] #4779933
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Originally Posted By: Blue_Goose
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Did you make sure the gasket came off with the Wix?


Yep! First thing I checked for


Could just be a chunk of dirt on the mating surface then, maybe remove the filter, check, and reinstall, see if it solves the problem?


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Thatís why I donít use RP oil/filters hide


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Re: Oil change, now leaking 2015 5.7 Hemi [Re: Blue_Goose] #4779950
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Any idea how much oil will come out when I remove the filter? Will it be more than if I drained the oil from the pan first? Trying to prepare for how much is gonna spill out. It doesn't come off clean without a mess running down your arm etc.

And yes I did clean all that up before I buttoned things back so the oil leak I'm seeing is not from the mess of the initial change


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Originally Posted By: Blue_Goose
Withe the RP filter it seemed to make contact and that was it...didn't feel like I could turn it any more.


That definitely sounds like a problem (the problem ?).

As for replacing just the filter w/o draining the oil, it can definitely be done but it also depends on the location of the oil filter in relation to the sump. On my Infiniti G35, it's mounted high enough that when I removed it (had to replace the oil cooler gasket), I lost 250 ml of oil. If I hadn't measured it, I probably wouldn't have bothered replacing the same 250 ml but since I had a number, I did. On 2WD versions or older versions of this same car, apparently the filter is low enough that you lose A LOT of oil when the filter is removed so draining first is advised. On your vehicle - sorry, no idea. If you do drain it, use a clean pan and put it back in when done. There's nothing wrong with doing that.

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