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Hello everyone- first post #4777536
06/04/18 06:44 PM
06/04/18 06:44 PM
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Des Moines, IA
Beatlebob32 Offline OP
Beatlebob32  Offline OP
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Des Moines, IA
Been lurking for a couple of years and decided I should actiallly post something- first; thank you all for the valuable info!

Now, to take off running:

Castrol Gtx vs Valvoline WB vs Pennzoil YB vs Mobil 5000

Which, why?

Canít seem to find or interpret UOAís and all threads I have found in the topic are 5+ years old.

How about a fresh one? smile


1997 Lincoln Towncar
1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate
1985 Volkswagen Vanagon
1992 Mercedes Benz 400e
1994 Chevrolet Suburban
Stopped counting at 200 cars past
1989 Deutz Allis 612h
Snapper LT2452
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Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: Beatlebob32] #4777538
06/04/18 06:45 PM
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Dallas,Tx USA
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I prefer the high moly oils like Pennzoil. Smooth quiet engines laugh


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: Beatlebob32] #4777540
06/04/18 06:46 PM
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Georgia
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Georgia
VWB. I never use it, though, since you can find maxlife at the same price.


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2009 Scion TC Manual
Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: Beatlebob32] #4777550
06/04/18 06:54 PM
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NY
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NY
Hi and welcome. I'd use them all.. how about a bottle of shell dino?


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Wix air filter
Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: Beatlebob32] #4777560
06/04/18 07:03 PM
06/04/18 07:03 PM
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Des Moines, IA
Beatlebob32 Offline OP
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Des Moines, IA
Thanks! Yes- I forgot Shell! Throw that in the mix. Just wondering if there is any discernible difference and clear advantage of one or the other, with the exception of Pennzoil (My personal subscription to a long-standing bias against it for sludge problems- feel free to educate me) I use all of these, but Iím curious if any are actually superior to the others .

I also use Max Life but Iíve recently come across information that is that suggests there may be a reason not to use it in low mileage cars, I also use Max Life but Iíve recently come across information that is that suggests there may be a reason not to use it in low mileage cars As the seal sweeller could accelerate wear on seals that are in good condition.

My first experience with Max life when it first came out was on my 1985 Volkswagen Vanagon which at the time both leaked and burned oil. Within one OCI both stopped, and I was sold forever on Max Life.

However, I donít want to dump unnecessary additives into a healthy engine, When it could hasten problems Iím trying to avoid. Based on that new info, Iím inclined to go back to white bottle on a couple of my low mile good running cars. I have always had a personal preference for Valvoline, but Iím equally open to concrete information to the concrete contrary.

Over the years and Iíve seen opinions change on Mobil 1, Valvoline white bottle, Purolator filters etc. which is why I decided to start a new thread.

Over the years Iíve seen opinions change on mobile one, Valvoline white bottle, Purolator filters etc. which is why I decided to start the new thread.

Iíd really like some up-to-date info from people who are smarter than I am smile

Last edited by Beatlebob32; 06/04/18 07:31 PM.

1997 Lincoln Towncar
1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate
1985 Volkswagen Vanagon
1992 Mercedes Benz 400e
1994 Chevrolet Suburban
Stopped counting at 200 cars past
1989 Deutz Allis 612h
Snapper LT2452
++
Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: Beatlebob32] #4777590
06/04/18 07:37 PM
06/04/18 07:37 PM
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Texas
4WD Offline
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Texas
Originally Posted By: Beatlebob32
Thanks! Yes- I forgot Shell! Throw that in the mix. Just wondering if there is any discernible difference and clear advantage of one or the other, with the exception of Pennzoil (My personal subscription to a long-standing bias against it for sludge problems- feel free to educate me) I use all of these, but Iím curious if any are actually superior to the others .

I also use Max Life but Iíve recently come across information that is that suggests there may be a reason not to use it in low mileage cars, I also use Max Life but Iíve recently come across information that is that suggests there may be a reason not to use it in low mileage cars As the seal sweeller could accelerate wear on seals that are in good condition.

My first experience with Max life when it first came out was on my 1985 Volkswagen Vanagon which at the time both leaked and burned oil. Within one OCI both stopped, and I was sold forever on Max Life.

However, I donít want to dump unnecessary additives into a healthy engine, When it could hasten problems Iím trying to avoid. Based on that new info, Iím inclined to go back to white bottle on a couple of my low mile good running cars. I have always had a personal preference for Valvoline, but Iím equally open to concrete information to the concrete contrary.

Over the years and Iíve seen opinions change on mobile lawn, Valvoline white bottle, Purolator filters etc. which is why I decided to start a new thread.

Over the years Iíve seen opinions change on mobile one, Valvoline white bottle, Purolator filters etc. which is why I decided to start the new thread.

Iíd really like some up-to-date info from people who are smarter than I am smile


Welcome Ö no shortage of opinions here Ö trick is to figure out which ones to follow. When a guy recently expressed interest in joining Ö I gave him less than a dozen who are both knowledgeable and are objective thinkers Ö hard to find both here and now one from the top part of the list has gone missing Ö I also said to find value in some of the ďbeen there, done thatĒ gear heads Ö and on the downside look for patterns of the same old tired bias from a few Ö just like the news those will draw undeserved attention and mixed value threads Ö
As for your question Ö all good 5k lubes in basic engines Ö

Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: Beatlebob32] #4777610
06/04/18 07:54 PM
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Got to say I like Pennzoil.


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2008 Sebring Hardtop convertible. Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle oil
2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT. Amsoil Metric 10w-40
Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: Beatlebob32] #4777615
06/04/18 07:57 PM
06/04/18 07:57 PM
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Oshawa, Ont. Canada
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Oshawa, Ont. Canada
Originally Posted By: Beatlebob32
Thanks! Yes- I forgot Shell! Throw that in the mix. Just wondering if there is any discernible difference and clear advantage of one or the other, with the exception of Pennzoil (My personal subscription to a long-standing bias against it for sludge problems- feel free to educate me) I use all of these, but Iím curious if any are actually superior to the others .




Type in Google, "pennzoil sludge problem myths" and you'll see for yourself that it was started years ago but there is no merit to it whatsoever.
I am big Pennzoil fan and have used it exclusively in my vehicles for years. It gets excellent UOA's and does an excellent job keeping engines clean.


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for all 3.
Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: Beatlebob32] #4777616
06/04/18 07:58 PM
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NY
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Iím a big fan of Dino oil and if they made 0w20 in Dino Iíd use it.

I believe in 6 month 5-7500k oil changes and Dino always worked just fine for me.

Iíve never heard of anyone outperforming conventional oil and Iíve been around mechanics my entire life.


NAPA FULL SYNTHETIC 0w20 Partsplus oil filter
Wix air filter
Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: Beatlebob32] #4777617
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Welcome.

There is no best. All those oils will serve you well. Btw, Pennzoil is Shell.

Buy whichever is cheaper or on sale / rebate.


2017 Mazda CX-5 GT.

Valvoline Modern Engine 0w20
Mobil 1 EP 108A
Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: Beatlebob32] #4777633
06/04/18 08:08 PM
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NY
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NY
Shell = Pennzoil and Quaker state


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Wix air filter
Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: mx5miata] #4777647
06/04/18 08:21 PM
06/04/18 08:21 PM
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1/2 hr N.E. of Detroit
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Originally Posted By: mx5miata


Iíve never heard of anyone outperforming conventional oil and Iíve been around mechanics my entire life.


Plenty of discussion here at BITOG, on how synthetic out-perform conventional in length, engine cleanliness, extreme temps and flow.


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Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: Beatlebob32] #4777659
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Don't forget ss Chevron and Havoline.


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Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: Triple_Se7en] #4777679
06/04/18 08:52 PM
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I never made the claim that conventional outperforms synthetic and i know that it doesn't.

drive I'm just making a comment that following 6 month or 5-7500k OCI's that we are not going to outperform the intended use of the conventional. Unless you running indy or daytona 500. OT


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Re: Hello everyone- first post [Re: mx5miata] #4777690
06/04/18 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: mx5miata
I never made the claim that conventional outperforms synthetic and i know that it doesn't.

drive I'm just making a comment that following 6 month or 5-7500k OCI's that we are not going to outperform the intended use of the conventional. Unless you running indy or daytona 500. OT



ďIíve never heard of anyone outperforming conventional oil and Iíve been around mechanics my entire life.Ē



A very fine line here.


2017 Mazda CX-5 GT.

Valvoline Modern Engine 0w20
Mobil 1 EP 108A
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