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#4736372 - 04/23/18 04:05 PM Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil
Seweryn Offline


Registered: 10/30/15
Posts: 28
Loc: Eire
Hi Guys,

I have been driving the Volkswagen type 1 for decades using various oils, however would like to listen to your opinions on which oil you would choose for the engine. Preferably 5W40 or 10W40 viscosity. I do the oil changes every 2 - 3k km, which I know is important. However, the newer oils have different additives and may lack important ingredients in the blend...

Thank you.
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#4736374 - 04/23/18 04:10 PM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: Seweryn]
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Registered: 12/24/11
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Loc: North Carolina
Pick up a 5 gallon pail of Mobil Delvac 15W-40 and you'll have oil for a long while.
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#4736382 - 04/23/18 04:20 PM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: Seweryn]
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Registered: 01/28/18
Posts: 64
Loc: Missouri
Of course you have experience, but I had two Super Beetles back in the days and always ran 40w Valvoline Racing oil in the summer and 20w in the winter.

Tons of miles put on them. Zero problems.

I wouldn't think air cooled engines would like multigrade, but who knows.

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#4736389 - 04/23/18 04:26 PM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: David2431]
Seweryn Offline


Registered: 10/30/15
Posts: 28
Loc: Eire
Originally Posted By: David2431
Of course you have experience, but I had two Super Beetles back in the days and always ran 40w Valvoline Racing oil in the summer and 20w in the winter.

Tons of miles put on them. Zero problems.

I wouldn't think air cooled engines would like multigrade, but who knows.

There are no single grade oils available here except for lawnmower engine oils. I have always used multigrade oils and also never noticed any issues...
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#4736435 - 04/23/18 05:24 PM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: Seweryn]
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Registered: 10/09/04
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If Eire is Ireland, I'm guessing it never gets below -10C or so there? Back in the day, I used SAE 30 in my 1200 cc '64 Beetle, and 10W40 on my '73 Type III 1.6 FI Squareback-unless you have an aftermarket oil filter, IMHO keeping the oil changed & clean might be more important than what you actually use. Motor oil has come a LONG way from when those engines were made, before 1978.
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#4736488 - 04/23/18 06:04 PM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: Seweryn]
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I would run a 15w40. Easy to find and should hold up well.
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#4736504 - 04/23/18 06:20 PM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: Jimzz]
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Registered: 02/06/14
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Originally Posted By: Jimzz
I would run a 15w40. Easy to find and should hold up well.

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#4736546 - 04/23/18 06:55 PM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: Seweryn]
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Registered: 06/05/03
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My dad had a 70 and a 74 he bought both brand new. Put nearly 300K Miles between them. Never had any engine trouble running Pennzoil 10w40. I remember trips from Calif to TX in August in those bugs too.
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#4736642 - 04/23/18 08:04 PM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: Seweryn]
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Registered: 04/12/09
Posts: 270
Loc: Maryland
I had a 74 Beetle and a 68 Beetle beater. Always used 10W40. Put close to a combined 300K on those things before the frames rotted out.

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#4737006 - 04/24/18 08:30 AM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: bullwinkle]
Seweryn Offline


Registered: 10/30/15
Posts: 28
Loc: Eire
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
If Eire is Ireland, I'm guessing it never gets below -10C or so there? Back in the day, I used SAE 30 in my 1200 cc '64 Beetle, and 10W40 on my '73 Type III 1.6 FI Squareback-unless you have an aftermarket oil filter, IMHO keeping the oil changed & clean might be more important than what you actually use. Motor oil has come a LONG way from when those engines were made, before 1978.

Yes, it rarely gets below 0C here. I know the frequent oil changes are top priority as is keeping the oil level at the top mark (2.5 l) rather than near the bottom (only 1.25 l). These are by far the key maintenance factors for this engine. There are no modifications to the engine.
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#4737030 - 04/24/18 09:09 AM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: Seweryn]
weasley Offline


Registered: 03/13/13
Posts: 759
Loc: UK
Originally Posted By: Seweryn
Originally Posted By: David2431
Of course you have experience, but I had two Super Beetles back in the days and always ran 40w Valvoline Racing oil in the summer and 20w in the winter.

Tons of miles put on them. Zero problems.

I wouldn't think air cooled engines would like multigrade, but who knows.

There are no single grade oils available here except for lawnmower engine oils. I have always used multigrade oils and also never noticed any issues...


You should be able to pick up some monograde HD engine oils in a farm or agricultural supplier, maybe even through an industrial supplier or truck supplier. I'm not saying these are right for you, but they should be out there.
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#4737162 - 04/24/18 12:18 PM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: Seweryn]
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Registered: 10/22/15
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Loc: Balearic Islands , Spain
Millers and Morris have some nice high Zddp 10W40 and 15W40 oils.
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#4744006 - 04/30/18 10:37 PM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: Seweryn]
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Registered: 07/31/16
Posts: 170
Loc: Albury, NSW
Given the low spring pressures in the old V'Dub, low state of tune and no-doubt slightly worn nature. Any 40-60W mineral oil will most likley give you no issues. Especially if you go the HDEO: CI-4 route.

However if you want the best for your air cooled historic friend, you can't go past Porsche's own air-cooled specific engine oil:



probably expensive, but a walk in purchase from your local Porsche dealer wink

regards
Jordan

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#4744092 - 05/01/18 03:07 AM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: JFAllen]
SR5 Offline


Registered: 07/07/15
Posts: 4581
Loc: Down Under
Originally Posted By: JFAllen
Given the low spring pressures in the old V'Dub, low state of tune and no-doubt slightly worn nature. Any 40-60W mineral oil will most likley give you no issues. Especially if you go the HDEO: CI-4 route.

However if you want the best for your air cooled historic friend, you can't go past Porsche's own air-cooled specific engine oil:



probably expensive, but a walk in purchase from your local Porsche dealer wink

regards
Jordan


And here is the VOA for you....
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4098090/

Regards,
SR5
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#4744341 - 05/01/18 10:33 AM Re: Volkswagen Air Cooled Engine Oil [Re: SR5]
nap Offline


Registered: 04/27/18
Posts: 555
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: SR5


Looks Dexos-ish to me laugh


Edited by nap (05/01/18 10:33 AM)

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