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#4728239 - 04/15/18 08:19 PM Is there a difference between ceramic pads?
cheesepuffs Offline


Registered: 09/24/13
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Looking at ceramic pads, there is a range of prices across the major brands. Is paying a premium for a ceramic Akebono worth the money over a cheaper ceramic pad from Bendix or anybody else? Or is it a situation like API certified oils where say each SN oil is made within a tiny window anyway, to the point where it hardly even matters which one you choose? Iím ok with ponying up a few more bucks if itís going to really be better, but I donít want to throw money down the drain if itís just paying for a name. What brands have you guys used and liked yourselves?
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#4728250 - 04/15/18 08:27 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: cheesepuffs]
Reddy45 Offline


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Any specific reason you want ceramic pads?

I know they tend to run cleaner but for general driving purposes, I've felt like semi metallic had better bite when stopping.

I would go off reviews about the particular line of brake pad you are thinking about rather than try and make a brand to brand comparison. Certain brands do command a premium like EBC, but at a low enough price point with brands like Raybestos, you're just picking a name.

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#4728257 - 04/15/18 08:31 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: cheesepuffs]
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Yes. Some have poor brake performance when cold, some tend to be noisy, some are very intolerant of high brake temperatures and will leave very heavy pad deposits on the rotors which causes premature vibration issues.

Many of these pads were never tested in the applications they are recommended for. Aftermarket companies generally have very little or no R&D capabilities. Pad lines often use only a handful of formulations for the entire lineup.

I am not saying that dealer pads will always be the best option out there, but they tend to provide the most consistent results.
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#4728261 - 04/15/18 08:35 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: Reddy45]
cheesepuffs Offline


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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Any specific reason you want ceramic pads?

I know they tend to run cleaner but for general driving purposes, I've felt like semi metallic had better bite when stopping.


Yeah I want the low dust properties of a ceramic. I know itís a sacrifice, but how much worse have ceramics been in your experience in terms of bite? I donít want to completely ruin my braking response either
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#4728264 - 04/15/18 08:40 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: cheesepuffs]
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I can't comment on premium pads but I bought some AC Delco Advantage Ceramics a few years ago for $27 and probably have 100k on them and they work great. I'll probably buy them again when these wear out.

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#4728269 - 04/15/18 08:46 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: cheesepuffs]
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I put Sangsin brand ceramic pads on my Ridgeline and am very happy with them. They were $36 (now $42) and are a South Korean brand. Bosch may be a moderately priced brand you can buy to save a few bucks. I'd stay away from cheap ceramic pads that are $20-$25--you usually get what you pay for. Also, forget about machining your rotors. Not worth it.
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#4728274 - 04/15/18 08:48 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: cheesepuffs]
gathermewool Offline


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Better is relative. How do you drive (I.e., how do you brake)? I had OE pads last > 60k miles in an STI. I like to anticipate and engine-brake as much as possible. Most of the other people I see on the road seem as if the accelerator/brake pedal are more of an on/off switch than anything. Still again, others are smart albeit aggressive drivers.

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#4728282 - 04/15/18 08:54 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: NormanBuntz]
cheesepuffs Offline


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Originally Posted By: NormanBuntz
I put Sangsin brand ceramic pads on my Ridgeline and am very happy with them. They were $36 (now $42) and are a South Korean brand. Bosch may be a moderately priced brand you can buy to save a few bucks. I'd stay away from cheap ceramic pads that are $20-$25--you usually get what you pay for. Also, forget about machining your rotors. Not worth it.


Oh Iím totally with you regarding rotors. Theyíre so cheap now that thereís no point in turning rotors anymore and I expect parts stores and shops will soon be scrapping their brake lathes if they havenít already.
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#4728285 - 04/15/18 08:55 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: Warstud]
cheesepuffs Offline


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Originally Posted By: Warstud
I can't comment on premium pads but I bought some AC Delco Advantage Ceramics a few years ago for $27 and probably have 100k on them and they work great. I'll probably buy them again when these wear out.


Thatís what I like to hear. Iíve read that ceramics are very easy on rotors and last a long time, and 100k miles is quite the feat!
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#4728290 - 04/15/18 08:59 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: cheesepuffs]
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I put ceramic TRW ceramic brake pads front and rear on a former neighbors Hyundai Sonata. They are an OEM supplier of brake pads for some vehicles.
They were priced good on Amazon.

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#4728296 - 04/15/18 09:03 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: cheesepuffs]
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#4728301 - 04/15/18 09:10 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: wymi516]
cheesepuffs Offline


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Akebono is what Iím leaning toward, but are they really better than others like Bendix or PowerStop these days?
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#4728317 - 04/15/18 09:31 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: cheesepuffs]
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Loc: NY
Generally more expensive brakes pads will be better. In the grand scheme of things though the best brakes in the world wont matter if you have cheap or worn tires. Rotors donít matter as much.
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#4728365 - 04/15/18 11:10 PM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: cheesepuffs]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
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Originally Posted By: cheesepuffs
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Any specific reason you want ceramic pads?

I know they tend to run cleaner but for general driving purposes, I've felt like semi metallic had better bite when stopping.


Yeah I want the low dust properties of a ceramic. I know itís a sacrifice, but how much worse have ceramics been in your experience in terms of bite? I donít want to completely ruin my braking response either


It's hard to put a number on it, but I felt like the brake pedal needed about 35% more effort to make a panic stop with ceramic pads. (compared to semi-metallic)

Basically you can feel that there is less friction with the ceramics.. but yes they were a TON cleaner.

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#4728445 - 04/16/18 05:17 AM Re: Is there a difference between ceramic pads? [Re: cheesepuffs]
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Yes, there are differences in ceramic pads. I put akebonos on my Intrepid, which is large and fairly heavy, and braking improved significantly.
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