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Old washer change torque? #4722797
04/10/18 02:08 PM
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pda1122 Offline OP
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Just wondering if reusing your old drain plug washer has any effect on torque values. Iím guessing itís very minimal but something to think about


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Re: Old washer change torque? [Re: pda1122] #4722827
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I have re-used old drain plug washer on a few occasions. I don't recommend it but if I must do it, I won't lose sleep over it either. Assuming my torque wrench is calibrated spot on, then I might just put another lb-ft more than what's called for. As long as I don't see any drips of oil from the drain plug, I'll call it a day.


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Re: Old washer change torque? [Re: pda1122] #4722837
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I've used the same combo wrench for years on my drain plugs so I have a good feel for when everything is tight enough. I reused a crush washer once and it caused a leak. I had to go back and snug up the plug an extra 1/16th of a turn to stop the leak. A new crush washer wouldn't have needed that extra snugging up.


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Re: Old washer change torque? [Re: pda1122] #4722849
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Why would you reuse a crush washer?


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Re: Old washer change torque? [Re: pda1122] #4722881
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The torque spec is based on not stripping the threads. If it leaks when properly torqued, you need a new washer.

Re: Old washer change torque? [Re: pda1122] #4722907
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When I have reused them I just flip them around. When you have to pry them off the plug threads then I change them.


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Re: Old washer change torque? [Re: pda1122] #4722932
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I've reused them. Never used a torque wrench. Just get it good and snug.


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Re: Old washer change torque? [Re: pda1122] #4722965
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Originally Posted By: pda1122
Just wondering if reusing your old drain plug washer has any effect on torque values. Iím guessing itís very minimal but something to think about


I have never replaced my washers....ever. And I use my arm for my calibrated torque wrench. Never have had a leak.

Re: Old washer change torque? [Re: SHOZ] #4722987
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Originally Posted By: SHOZ
When I have reused them I just flip them around. When you have to pry them off the plug threads then I change them.


Same here... still serviceable = still in service!

I have never "torqued" an automotive drain plug in my life.

I know when to stop - most jiffy shops stops when it's about 3% away from stripping the threads out!


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Re: Old washer change torque? [Re: pda1122] #4723445
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Flip the washer around... or if its copper, heat it (dull red glow) and let it cool slowly. I always replace them (have a huge assortment), but for the odd size I don't have and in a pinch... I'll try and reuse.

Re: Old washer change torque? [Re: Leo99] #4724280
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Loopie Offline
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I just keep on reusing them and no torque wrench needed.

Last edited by Loopie; 04/12/18 03:23 AM.

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Re: Old washer change torque? [Re: pda1122] #4724290
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Just snug it up, no rocket science here.


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