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#4722623 - 04/10/18 10:59 AM 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil
DustinC Offline


Registered: 10/15/08
Posts: 45
Loc: Northern Alberta
2011 Ram 5.7 Hemi, towing 6,000lbs most of the time, I sampled half way through the interval, but the filter was never changed
trucks currently at 297,443km went 30,000km on this oil change its the longest we have gone so far

Truck was running Amsoil 5w20 Signature Series, and A EaO 11 fiter for 30,000km

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#4722652 - 04/10/18 11:32 AM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: DustinC]
dustyroads Offline


Registered: 05/13/13
Posts: 1078
Loc: upstate NY
Not too bad for the usage. The TBN is fantastic for the time/distance; how much make-up oil was added (if any)?

Anything you can do for the silicon? Looks like it runs a bit high in each sample. I would assume it's another oil patch truck and maybe lots of dust in the air, and you most likely keep watch of air intake; but maybe there's another air filter to try?
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#4722676 - 04/10/18 12:00 PM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: DustinC]
DustinC Offline


Registered: 10/15/08
Posts: 45
Loc: Northern Alberta
Silicon seems like its always high for some reason, but If you look at the sample I took half way through the silicon doesn't climb much so maybe its a additive in the oil?
currently using a Napa Gold air filter I am going to try OEM for the next OCI

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#4722683 - 04/10/18 12:03 PM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: DustinC]
DustinC Offline


Registered: 10/15/08
Posts: 45
Loc: Northern Alberta
and 3 or 4 liters were prob used for top ups

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#4722701 - 04/10/18 12:19 PM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: DustinC]
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Posts: 3429
Loc: Massachusetts
Oxidation and Sulfation is high and thickened a bit. I'd get an oil and stick to 10,000 miles max.
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#4722795 - 04/10/18 02:04 PM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: DustinC]
Bjornviken Offline


Registered: 12/06/17
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Loc: Finland
Why not 5w-30 ? you got high iron

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#4722898 - 04/10/18 04:36 PM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: DustinC]
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Registered: 07/19/16
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Loc: WA
TBN is great. Since you are towing, you definitely need to switch to a 5w30, since iron is high.


Edited by John_Dude (04/10/18 04:36 PM)

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#4723151 - 04/10/18 09:37 PM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: deven]
DustinC Offline


Registered: 10/15/08
Posts: 45
Loc: Northern Alberta
Originally Posted By: deven
Oxidation and Sulfation is high and thickened a bit. I'd get an oil and stick to 10,000 miles max.

This oil has high Sulfation and Oxidation numbers out of the jug. You'd get an oil? confused

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#4723155 - 04/10/18 09:39 PM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: John_Dude]
DustinC Offline


Registered: 10/15/08
Posts: 45
Loc: Northern Alberta
Originally Posted By: John_Dude
TBN is great. Since you are towing, you definitely need to switch to a 5w30, since iron is high.

Yeah I think I will be switching to a 5w30 diesel oil down the road to test out.

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#4723223 - 04/10/18 10:47 PM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: DustinC]
zeng Offline


Registered: 09/01/15
Posts: 2200
Loc: Malaysia
5W20 inadequate for towing ?
Yep, xW30/40 could be more appropriate here.


Edited by zeng (04/10/18 10:47 PM)

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#4723229 - 04/10/18 10:54 PM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: DustinC]
4WD Offline


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6554
Loc: Texas
A similar run with Amsoil SS 5w30 would be a worthy comparison

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#4723400 - 04/11/18 08:42 AM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: DustinC]
deven Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
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Loc: Massachusetts
Originally Posted By: DustinC
Originally Posted By: deven
Oxidation and Sulfation is high and thickened a bit. I'd get an oil and stick to 10,000 miles max.

This oil has high Sulfation and Oxidation numbers out of the jug. You'd get an oil? confused
k
You have a VOA with sulfation and oxidation that says it has high values for both? Anything over 50 is considered too high according to a former member here who translates UOA for a living. Choose a particular oil but IMO would not go over 10,000 miles.
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#4723929 - 04/11/18 05:56 PM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: DustinC]
dustyroads Offline


Registered: 05/13/13
Posts: 1078
Loc: upstate NY
Originally Posted By: DustinC
Silicon seems like its always high for some reason, but If you look at the sample I took half way through the silicon doesn't climb much so maybe its a additive in the oil?
currently using a Napa Gold air filter I am going to try OEM for the next OCI


Yeah the second half of the latest oci shows an enormous improvement in silicon (PPM/hour in use). Any chance the filter has been in awhile and is now much more efficient? If that air filter has some life left in it (allowing continued use) you may see much lower silicon and iron in future reports.

Regardless of the grade of oil used, if you could lessen the sand paper effect of the silicon, the results should look much better. Maybe some sort of pre-filter could be put in? (Like a piece of foam air filter stuffed in under the standard paper). Don't know if that could be done, but it could be helpful if so.
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#4724951 - 04/12/18 05:43 PM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: deven]
DustinC Offline


Registered: 10/15/08
Posts: 45
Loc: Northern Alberta
Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: DustinC
Originally Posted By: deven
Oxidation and Sulfation is high and thickened a bit. I'd get an oil and stick to 10,000 miles max.

This oil has high Sulfation and Oxidation numbers out of the jug. You'd get an oil? confused
k
You have a VOA with sulfation and oxidation that says it has high values for both? Anything over 50 is considered too high according to a former member here who translates UOA for a living. Choose a particular oil but IMO would not go over 10,000 miles.


Yes the VOA was over 50, its just this signature series oil that seems to read like that, the lab says its nothing to worry about, wear treads are no better or worse the longer the oil is ran so I see no benefit in doing 10k oci


Edited by DustinC (04/12/18 05:43 PM)

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#4725026 - 04/12/18 07:15 PM Re: 2011 Ram 1500 5.7 297,443km 30,000km OCI Amsoil [Re: DustinC]
JAG Offline


Registered: 10/23/05
Posts: 4893
Loc: Fredericksburg, VA
Oxidation in the VOA is mostly from the ester content. The towing and viscosity increase shows tell me that the oil experienced a lot of heat. Do you have an oil temp. gauge?

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