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Ford V10 recomendations #4716622
04/04/18 09:19 PM
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Have a 2011 Ford E350 4x4 van with a 6.8 V10 just lost the motor to a rod bearing failure that just doesn't makes sense at 104,000 miles
Has had Mobil 1 5w20 in it since the first oil change with wix filters changed every 5000 miles , failure happened less then 200 miles into the last oil change. when I dropped oil and filter on recent change I had zero evidence of any problems.
installing a new V10 from ford and looking for recommendations to use in new engine as I am skeptical of Mobil 1 .

thanks for the help

Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: Quigley] #4716628
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Do you do lots of towing or heavy hauling? Utility bed or toolboxes inside the van? What are the operating conditions?


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Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: 69Torino] #4716630
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no heavy hauling, but the van is built inside and out and is heavy tops the scale at 14K pounds.
drive it hard but not what I would consider abusive. mostly highway driving

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Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: Quigley] #4716634
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Is Jooksing back?


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M1 0-20 EP
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M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and MC LV
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Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: Quigley] #4716637
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Please post pics of that beast!

Edge 0W40!


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Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: Quigley] #4716643
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The rod bearing failure had NOTHING to do with the brand of oil you were using, I also highly doubt it being a 20W had anything to do with it either.

Was the engine tore down & inspected?


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Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: Quigley] #4716645
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Did they give you the old failed parts? A chart like this could help diagnose:


Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: maxdustington] #4716648
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shes is a beast.. having it towed almost a 100 miles home was not fun ...

Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: Quigley] #4716651
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Not likely a Mobil 1 or a 5w-20 issue.

If it were my vehicle, I'd likely run a heavier duty oil like Rotella or Delo 5w-30 though.


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2016 Ford Escape SE Eco-Boost 2.0L
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Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: clinebarger] #4716652
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Originally Posted By: clinebarger
The rod bearing failure had NOTHING to do with the brand of oil you were using, I also highly doubt it being a 20W had anything to do with it either.

Was the engine tore down & inspected?


not tore down , i have the new engine sitting on the floor and going back in Friday , was going to take the pan off and inspect before the core goes back ,, never lost oil pressure and still ran like nothing was wrong except for the sledge hammer knock ..

Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: Quigley] #4716655
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The truck is heavier than a stock unit. Therefore more constant load on the engine, as compared to towing something heavy once in a while. Therefore the viscosity is what caused damage over long term use. On new engine use any major brand 0w40 oil and I guarantee you that you won't see the same failure in the future, assuming the OEM parts have no factory defects.


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Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: BikeWhisperer] #4716657
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Originally Posted By: BikeWhisperer
Not likely a Mobil 1 or a 5w-20 issue.

If it were my vehicle, I'd likely run a heavier duty oil like Rotella or Delo 5w-30 though.



I agree on not being a Mobil 1 issue just a little gun shy i guess since the failure .. they 6.8 is known to go a long way with little problems ...

Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: Quigley] #4716660
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Probably just a random failure.

What size/kind ofmtires does it have? 14k pounds would mean 3,500 pounds on each tire. Sounds like it's overloaded.


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2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 230k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
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Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: Vladiator] #4716661
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Originally Posted By: Vladiator
The truck is heavier than a stock unit. Therefore more constant load on the engine, as compared to towing something heavy once in a while. Therefore the viscosity is what caused damage over long term use. On new engine use any major brand 0w40 oil and I guarantee you that you won't see the same failure in the future, assuming the OEM parts have no factory defects.


thanks for the feedback.
I went with a new not reman ford motor since I have no plan on getting rid of it . was worth the extra $ to me .

Re: Ford V10 recomendations [Re: Nick1994] #4716663
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Probably just a random failure.

What size/kind ofmtires does it have? 14k pounds would mean 3,500 pounds on each tire. Sounds like it's overloaded.



Running 37" mickey thompson Baja ATZ P3 rated for 3750# at 65psi.. have a little room weight wise

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