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Snapper Garden Tractor won't start #4712599
03/31/18 05:15 PM
03/31/18 05:15 PM
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spk2000 Offline OP
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my Snapper GT300 with 24HP Briggs won't start. Shut it off last fall under deck covered with a tarp to minimize water and snow. Shop i bought it from stores them outside. Battery went dead but took a charge and holding it fine. I hear 1 click when i turn key. Starter does not spin. I am thinking it should be something simple and hoping someone here has suggestions. Less than 270 hours on motor. Ran great when I shut it off. Expect it will run great once I get it going.
Thanks


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Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4712610
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Are you sitting in the seat?
Is the machine in neutral and the parking brake engaged?


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Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4712614
03/31/18 05:35 PM
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Yes I was sitting in the seat and it has parking brake on. Hydrostatic pedals automatically return to neutral. Oh and I should add the mower drive belts or PTO is down for off. All good questions I should have added that detail.
Thanks


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Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4712622
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In that case, there are a couple of other things to check. One is the ignition switch and the other is the starter solenoid. Check and see if your wiring is tight and you have a good ground. The seat safety switch is another possibility. If you know how to check things with a multimeter, that will narrow things down.


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Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4712637
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The battery is likely bad. Lead acid batteries don't like going dead. It may take a charge but it probably can't supply enough current to turn over the starter.

Can you load test the battery?

Try to jump start the tractor.

Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: AandPDan] #4712652
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Originally Posted By: AandPDan
The battery is likely bad. Lead acid batteries don't like going dead. It may take a charge but it probably can't supply enough current to turn over the starter.

Can you load test the battery?

Try to jump start the tractor.


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Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4712689
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If the battery is actually good, you may have a bad battery cable or connection.

All the "safety switches" everywhere are very likely the culprit.

Originally Posted By: AandPDan
Try to jump start the tractor.


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You'll fry the voltage regulator in the lawn tractor!


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Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4712706
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I have seen the solenoid go bad, but you heard a click. You can test by using a jumper from the hot side of the battery to the starter post, with the switch on. Depending on safeties you might have to be sitting on the seat to keep it running.

Unless you have measured the battery voltage , its suspect. Lead acid batteries won't sit long discharged and still be salvageable


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Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4712939
04/01/18 06:11 AM
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I tried jump starting it using the battery charger and still nothing but the same click. it is a single click that seems to be coming from the ignition switch. I will try checking the seat safety switch next. To me those seem to be very problematic with many older mowers having them by passed. Mowing on my hill it is really probably quite a good thing to have just in case of run away mower.


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Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4712943
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Originally Posted By: spk2000
I tried jump starting it using the battery charger and still nothing but the same click. it is a single click that seems to be coming from the ignition switch. I will try checking the seat safety switch next. To me those seem to be very problematic with many older mowers having them by passed. Mowing on my hill it is really probably quite a good thing to have just in case of run away mower.


How do you know the battery is good? Unless you have a charger made for starting, you should not try that. You at least need to check the resting voltage of the battery. If the battery is ok, try bypassing the starter solenoid.


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Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4713050
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The click is more than likely the relay kicking in. This should be passing high current to the starter. So I would say the problem is not any switches but either the starter or wiring between the relay or wiring from battery to relay.

I could be the battery is so bad that once the relay kicks in the voltage drops to below what it takes to spin the motor. Taking a voltage reading while holding the key in start would tell the tale.


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Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4713453
04/01/18 04:57 PM
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Ok Thanks.
I will try and it is a smart charger and does have a start function on it. Problem is still not even attempting to turn over. It does have a battery test function that I have not tried yet.


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Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4713457
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I wish I had a dollar for every time I give out this advice, but....
Get yourself a $5 test light and see exactly how far your electricity is getting.

Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4713476
04/01/18 05:26 PM
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Got one of those and didn't think of that. Great idea and why I ask on here to help me analyze the potential problem
Thanks Everyone

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Re: Snapper Garden Tractor won't start [Re: spk2000] #4713504
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Still one of the quickest tests is to bypass the solenoid by jumping directly to the starter post. Mower out of gear, key on and see if it turns over/starts.


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