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BG oil additive #4701479
03/21/18 05:48 AM
03/21/18 05:48 AM
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Oklahoma
Brolly Offline OP
Brolly  Offline OP
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Oklahoma
“Engine Oil Additives”
“Your vehicle does not require oil additives. In fact, they may adversely affect the engine performance and durability.”
This is straight from the manual on my new Accord and the dealership requires BG oil additive to every oil change after 36,000 for their engine for life deal. What a joke shows reading your manual is a good thing.

Oh by the way at least the new Accords go you do NOT receive a full manual when you buy the vehicle brand new. You have to request it online to get one. That’s new to me.


1999 Toyota Camry CE 2.2L
PPHM or PP or PPU
5w-30
226,344

2018 Accord 2.0T Touring
10spd
0w-20 Castrol Edge Honda Filter
Re: BG oil additive [Re: Brolly] #4701490
03/21/18 05:57 AM
03/21/18 05:57 AM
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MA, Mittelfranken.de
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Once the factory warranty is up the dealer can demand whatever they want to continue the warranty on the engine. They demand you buy an extra service that you don't need or there goes their part of the warranty extension, its a hose job they know hardly anyone will stay with.
It sounds like a place to stay away from IMO.


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Re: BG oil additive [Re: Brolly] #4701498
03/21/18 06:04 AM
03/21/18 06:04 AM
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Oshawa, Ontario Canada
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What is the price of that treatment?

The removal of the manual is a penny pinching bean counter measure. They probably figure most people will google it online.


2015 Grand Caravan SXT Plus 5w-20 Valvoline SynPower/Fram Ultra Filter
1997 Honda Civic CX 5w-30 PPPP/Fram Ultra Filter
Re: BG oil additive [Re: Brolly] #4701500
03/21/18 06:04 AM
03/21/18 06:04 AM
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Oklahoma
Brolly Offline OP
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Oklahoma
I had debated on if I was going to have them perform the oil changes until then but me finding that information in the manual has me thinking of not even touching my car.


1999 Toyota Camry CE 2.2L
PPHM or PP or PPU
5w-30
226,344

2018 Accord 2.0T Touring
10spd
0w-20 Castrol Edge Honda Filter
Re: BG oil additive [Re: JC1] #4701501
03/21/18 06:05 AM
03/21/18 06:05 AM
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Oklahoma
Brolly Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: JC1
What is the price of that treatment?

The removal of the manual is a penny pinching bean counter measure. They probably figure most people will google it online.



$44 for oil change and filter and $16 I believe for the BG oil additive.


1999 Toyota Camry CE 2.2L
PPHM or PP or PPU
5w-30
226,344

2018 Accord 2.0T Touring
10spd
0w-20 Castrol Edge Honda Filter
Re: BG oil additive [Re: Brolly] #4701606
03/21/18 07:54 AM
03/21/18 07:54 AM
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MTL, CANADA
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If thats the only requirement it doesnt seem that bad, but Im sure they would find a way to void or not honor that warranty. Unless there is an inherent defect, I dont see how the engine would have any issues under normal conditions. I assume your car is a turbo? If my manual says that and the dealer makes it a requirement I would simply service the car myself and not bother with them at all.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: BG oil additive [Re: Brolly] #4701615
03/21/18 08:01 AM
03/21/18 08:01 AM
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Upper Midwest
kschachn Online content
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Upper Midwest
If it were me, I'd work very hard to find a different dealer. A dealer that specifically and directly violates the manufacturer's requirements for their vehicles is the last dealer I'd want to patronize.


1994 BMW 530i, 241K
1996 Honda Accord, 267K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 409K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: BG oil additive [Re: Rolla07] #4701618
03/21/18 08:03 AM
03/21/18 08:03 AM
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Champlain/Hudson Valley
Kira Offline
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Champlain/Hudson Valley
You're dealing with bad people at that dealership/

What is its name?

Re: BG oil additive [Re: Brolly] #4701621
03/21/18 08:05 AM
03/21/18 08:05 AM
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NY
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NY
Imagine that, a dishonest dealership. How could that be?


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Re: BG oil additive [Re: Brolly] #4701648
03/21/18 08:21 AM
03/21/18 08:21 AM
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Posts: 87
Boston, Massachusetts
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Boston, Massachusetts
Doesn't Honda provide a "powertrain warranty" that goes beyond the 36,000-mile bumper-to-bumper warranty? If so, Honda Motor Company specifies the maintenance and fluids required after 36,000 miles. What the dealership says is irrelevant.


2018 Explorer 3.5 EcoBoost
2004 Buick Rainier V8
2002 T-Bird
1999 F250 V10
1967 Camaro
1966 Shelby Cobra
1966 Pontiac GTO
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Re: BG oil additive [Re: Exit32] #4701654
03/21/18 08:25 AM
03/21/18 08:25 AM
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OH
SatinSilver Offline
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OH
BG sales reps probably sold the dealership on the product/service and how much additional profit it could generate.

As for the warranty part of it, all they have to do is say "no" to any repair they don't want to pay. In other words they have all the leverage.

Re: BG oil additive [Re: Brolly] #4701656
03/21/18 08:26 AM
03/21/18 08:26 AM
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Posts: 231
Oklahoma
Brolly Offline OP
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Oklahoma
Powertrain 5yrs 60,000 which ever is first.


1999 Toyota Camry CE 2.2L
PPHM or PP or PPU
5w-30
226,344

2018 Accord 2.0T Touring
10spd
0w-20 Castrol Edge Honda Filter
Re: BG oil additive [Re: Exit32] #4701657
03/21/18 08:28 AM
03/21/18 08:28 AM
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Posts: 11,090
OH
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OH
Five years/60k miles for the powertrain warranty.

Re: BG oil additive [Re: Kira] #4701664
03/21/18 08:32 AM
03/21/18 08:32 AM
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OH
SatinSilver Offline
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OH
Originally Posted By: Kira
You're dealing with bad people at that dealership/

What is its name?


Eskridge Honda

https://www.eskridgehonda.com/service-specials

Re: BG oil additive [Re: Brolly] #4701855
03/21/18 10:59 AM
03/21/18 10:59 AM
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Kalifornia Kollective
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Kalifornia Kollective
Which BG additive ...


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
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