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Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin #4695619
03/15/18 12:25 PM
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goodtimes Offline OP
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The center tube is jagged and doesn't go all the way to the end cap. Hard to get a good shot of it without can opened. Goes about half way around with the gap and looks worse by eye than this. The yellowish media can be seen and the center tube edge. Another waste of money.





Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: goodtimes] #4695625
03/15/18 12:30 PM
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Yes, Baldwin is trying to get away with something here. Good on you for pointing out their evil conspiracy. Call the press!

Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: Bottom_Feeder] #4695660
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Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
Yes, Baldwin is trying to get away with something here. Good on you for pointing out their evil conspiracy. Call the press!


shrug You make no sense. I am showing a fact with a picture. Maybe try a second mind track and get off the one track.

Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: goodtimes] #4695705
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Looks like it's time to move away from Baldwin....


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Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: goodtimes] #4695717
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I see the gap with media showing through the gap when zoomed in. Looks like a media bypass oil leaker. Lack of glue seam?

Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: goodtimes] #4695721
03/15/18 01:58 PM
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That picture shows us nothing you need a much better picture.


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Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4695728
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
That picture shows us nothing you need a much better picture.


Zoom in to the top back area of the center tube through the base plate center hole. I see a gap with media pleats showing.

Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: ZeeOSix] #4695886
03/15/18 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
I see the gap with media showing through the gap when zoomed in. Looks like a media bypass oil leaker. Lack of glue seam?


The center tube stops short, the media goes all the way to end cap afaik. There is no end cap support for this center tube about half way around it's diameter. The other half is filled with glue. May still work ok for most uses, but the tube is also cut poorly. No soup for me, scratch one more. Next, #3 will be look down Boss center tube. Not too great either. Someone else saw the same problem on a Baldwin some time ago. It's QC on the assembly line I think, not the material, not the design. It's really a problem when people need to make a living wage, against the owners need for production. It's like the old I Love Lucy skit where she can't keep up with the assembly line. A $5 oil filter isn't going to be hand made in Geppetto's workshop.

Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: goodtimes] #4695899
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This seems to be a Baldwin bashing thread. I don't see the evidence in the two photos.


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Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: goodtimes] #4695950
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You can't tell anything about the center tube in these pictures. The only thing I see appears to be the glue on the base plate missing on the right side of the first picture.


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Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: 6starprez] #4695959
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Originally Posted By: 6starprez
You can't tell anything about the center tube in these pictures. The only thing I see appears to be the glue on the base plate missing on the right side of the first picture.


Red arrow points to a gap at the end of the center tube. You can see the media pleats through the gap.


Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: goodtimes] #4695995
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shrug That looks like the adbv. I'd cut it open.


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Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: rollinpete] #4695999
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Originally Posted By: rollinpete
shrug That looks like the adbv. I'd cut it open.


I can clearly see the media pleats through the gap.

Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: goodtimes] #4696002
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Goodtimes - good catch. I would not use the filter either.

ZeeOSix - Thanks for the clarification.


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Re: Looking in center tube 2- Baldwin [Re: goodtimes] #4696167
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Possibly there's a problem there, but I don't see why the center tube not reaching fully to the end cap is necessarily a problem, as long as the end of the media is securely sealed to the end cap. Sloppy-looking, yes, but not clearly a cause of bypassing. The media isn't going to blow through that narrow gap, any more than it blows through holes in the middle of the center tube. Cartridge filters function with effectively no center tube---and no end cap either, on some designs.


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