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Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil #4691813
03/11/18 07:15 PM
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This doesn't look like it would be easy to change. Maybe it would last 200k miles I don't know?

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Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: faltic] #4691823
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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I could see this catching on if the belts are made to withstand all the snake oil that people seem to love putting in their oil. The belts will definitely run cooler and encounter less friction.

Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: faltic] #4691831
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No thanks! The Honda 1.8L 4 cylinder is a much better engine and is chain driven.
The same timing belt setup is used on the 1.5L Ecoboost engine. With the 1.5L Ecoboost the belt must be changed at 150,000 miles.

Last edited by MParr; 03/11/18 07:36 PM.

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Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: faltic] #4691836
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they still use timing belts? mad LOL crush oilburner

Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: faltic] #4691867
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Exhaust manifold molded in to the head - no thanks. Engineers are doing anything possible to get that last 0.01 MPG.

Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: faltic] #4691896
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Not the worst idea ever conceived.
You heard it from me first: Timing belts will be making a comeback in future engine designs, like it or not.
I mentioned before the auto makers have engine designs in the skunkworks for the 2025 EPA 54 MPG requirement that is looming.


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Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: faltic] #4691905
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Interesting read...

Link

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Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: faltic] #4691909
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Wet timing belts and dry timing belts.

Why not a chain?


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

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Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: ZeeOSix] #4691994
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Exhaust manifold molded in to the head - no thanks. Engineers are doing anything possible to get that last 0.01 MPG.


Thats an emissions move actually. Also one less part to make and less noise transmission


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Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: faltic] #4692011
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Honda was the first to use a belt in oil - but on a much smaller scale in their OHC small engines. But then again, Ford and Honda have different ideologies.

Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: Leo99] #4692029
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Originally Posted By: Leo99
Wet timing belts and dry timing belts.

Why not a chain?


Too expensive, heavier and most importantly, noisier


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Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: faltic] #4692031
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My owner's manual says that the belt can be changed at 150,000 miles, IIRC. It looks about a difficult as most timing chain jobs.
This is a seriously quiet engine. It is so quiet that rev matching downshifts is a PITA. I want more noise. grin


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Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: faltic] #4692037
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The timing belt in my Honda lawn mower run in the engine oil. It's about 10 years old an there's no problems so far.

Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: eyeofthetiger] #4692052
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Originally Posted By: eyeofthetiger
My owner's manual says that the belt can be changed at 150,000 miles, IIRC.
"Can" or should be changed that early? That's interesting, because I thought Ford's line on these initially (when the 1.0L was introduced) was that the oily belt is good for the life of the engine, and isn't expected to ever be replaced. Of course, that could be another way of saying the engine will last only as long as the belt.


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Re: Ford EcoBoost 1.0-litre timing belt runs in oil [Re: faltic] #4692063
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The owners manual of my 2015 Focus 1.0 makes no mention of replacing the timing belt.
The 2017 owners manual says at 150,000 miles “Replace timing and oil pump belt (1.0L engine).”

Last edited by E365; 03/12/18 03:21 AM.

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