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#4683938 - 03/04/18 09:54 AM Inconvenient sump capacity
parshisa Offline


Registered: 05/21/17
Posts: 536
Loc: TX
My pilot takes 5.7qt at oil/from filter change (as per manual). In real life it usually takes 5.3-5.4qt to get it to full. I find this capacity to be extremely inconvenient. Buying a separate quart completely defeats the purpose and kills the financial benefit or the MIR. Ao how do you guys deal with [censored] sump capacity? Buy an extra 5qt jug and use it for filling up over 5qt? Will that matter much if 5qt and additional 0.5qt will be differnet brands? (Say 5qt mobil1 and 0.5PP)?
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#4683944 - 03/04/18 10:01 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: parshisa]
Patman Offline



Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 20350
Loc: Oakville, Ontario
That's when it helps to run multiple cars on the exact same oil, then you just buy a bunch of 5 quart jugs and use whatever you need to fill each one properly. I hate the fact that buying oil in single bottles costs considerably more than in the 5 quart size. For instance, for a long time M1 at Walmart was $22.88 for 5 quarts, so that worked out to $4.58 per quart, but if you bought it by the quart it was $7 to $8! Seems like a huge ripoff to me.

For my situation the 5 quart size works out well because both my Corvette and BMW take 7 quarts, so 3 jugs works out to 2 oil changes worth, plus a little extra for top off. For my Honda, 5 quarts works out well too because it takes 4 to start and leaves me one more for top off. That's why I dislike the 4.4L size available for most oils in Canada, that size is extremely inconvenient for me.
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#4683945 - 03/04/18 10:01 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: parshisa]
PimTac Offline


Registered: 03/04/17
Posts: 4329
Loc: Soviet State of Washington
It is what it is. I donít let things like that bug me.

Buy a extra quart, put half in and save the other half for the next change.
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#4683948 - 03/04/18 10:03 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: parshisa]
supton Online   content


Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 11995
Loc: NH
That's a bummer. If it was me, I'd put in 5qt, drive for a day, then check cold. As long as it was above say halfway on the dipstick I'd call it a day. If it was below the half mark I'd dump in half a quart, measure after another run, again cold. If it was perfect I'd probably just start using 6 quarts and call it a day--but if adding that half quart brought it "lots" above top mark I'd just live with having a half quart lying around. I'm not a stickler for perfection.

If it was me and I had to put in 6 quarts at a time, I'd buy one box of 6 quarts and eat that cost. Yeah I'm wasting what, $10 doing that? but when I do an oil change, the ease pays for itself. Call me lazy but sometimes a dollar ain't worth picking up. Buy one case of oil, and then I can buy 5qt containers when on sale. One case will stretch out over six changes, right?

Just my opinion.
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#4683952 - 03/04/18 10:06 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: parshisa]
Carbuff Offline


Registered: 12/11/06
Posts: 148
Loc: Lost in the Garden State
I have a 'stash' of 5 qt jugs, so I use that for the remainders. (Also for topping up my older oil burners.)

I never had an issue adding a half-quart of a different brand. I DO try to keep viscosities about the same.


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I was just thinking about this very situation recently. Made me nostalgic for the 'old days' when oil was purchased in quarts...and cost USD 77 cents/qt on sale for Exxon! crazy
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#4683953 - 03/04/18 10:07 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: parshisa]
oldhp Offline


Registered: 06/28/12
Posts: 1632
Loc: USA
Buy Valvoline Maxlife Full Synthetic 5W20 for $17. That gives you 10 oil changes using 16oz at a time. Sleep well.
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#4683957 - 03/04/18 10:09 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: parshisa]
Mr Nice Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 21207
Loc: Orlando, FL
6 quarts will be just fine.

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#4683964 - 03/04/18 10:18 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: parshisa]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 41802
Loc: New Jersey
Kind of the same on cars that take 4.2-4.5 quarts. But a convenient 5qt jug, still have some left. Then can't use the jug to return used oil (this inconvenience also exists with using quarts).

I just hold on to the jug until next change. Use the rest. It won't go bad assuming it's closed tight. Dose some bloxygen in there if you're too concerned.

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#4683971 - 03/04/18 10:29 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: Mr Nice]
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Registered: 01/09/09
Posts: 6002
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
6 quarts will be just fine.



+1

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#4683976 - 03/04/18 10:35 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: parshisa]
SR5 Offline


Registered: 07/07/15
Posts: 4471
Loc: Down Under
Most here (Oz) sell the standard 5L jug, but Penrite sell theirs as a 6L jug for just the reason you say - slightly larger sump size. Yet their prices for 6 L are still good and comparable to the other 5 L jugs.

I'm sure the 6L (6.3 Qt) jug brings them a few extra sales.
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#4683984 - 03/04/18 10:50 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: gathermewool]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29801
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: gathermewool
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
6 quarts will be just fine.



+1

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#4683992 - 03/04/18 11:00 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: gathermewool]
SLO_Town Offline


Registered: 03/03/11
Posts: 665
Loc: California's Wine Country
Originally Posted By: gathermewool
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
6 quarts will be just fine.



+1


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#4683993 - 03/04/18 11:00 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: parshisa]
SHOZ Offline


Registered: 06/28/03
Posts: 5751
Loc: Illinois
Use some of the drained oil to top it off to full.
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#4683995 - 03/04/18 11:04 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: parshisa]
4WD Offline


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6423
Loc: Texas
Following my 5 quart jug thread I got two six packs of quarts Ö that will keep me sorted for a good while.

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#4684021 - 03/04/18 11:29 AM Re: Inconvenient sump capacity [Re: parshisa]
Whimsey Online   content


Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 4050
Loc: The Garden State
Originally Posted By: parshisa
My pilot takes 5.7qt at oil/from filter change (as per manual). In real life it usually takes 5.3-5.4qt to get it to full. I find this capacity to be extremely inconvenient. Buying a separate quart completely defeats the purpose and kills the financial benefit or the MIR. Ao how do you guys deal with [censored] sump capacity? Buy an extra 5qt jug and use it for filling up over 5qt? Will that matter much if 5qt and additional 0.5qt will be differnet brands? (Say 5qt mobil1 and 0.5PP)?


Ironically our 2017 2.3 EcoBoost Explorer also takes 5.7 quarts for a oil/filter change. Since I'm using Mobil 1 5W-30 I use a 5 qt jug to make the .7 qt portion. It's WAY cheaper than buying 1 qt bottles. I've been buying Mobil 1 at Walmart during the Mobil 1 rebates and I've also caught some of Walmart's "price roll backs" at the same time which reduces the price of a 5 qt jug to less than $11. Since pouring oil into the 2.3EB is tricky I bought some small plastic measuring buckets from Home Depot which work great with a wide base funnel.

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