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Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid #4672934
02/21/18 10:48 AM
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Sunnyinhollister Offline OP
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I'm looking for a inexpensive car for my son. I found a 2003 PT Cruiser with the non-turbo engine and a manual transmission with less than 50k miles. Any known issues or things to look for?


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Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #4672968
02/21/18 11:02 AM
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Friend of mine who is a mechanic says to run nothing but synthetic oil in those 2.0L or 2.4L engines.


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Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #4672977
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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Don't the kids make fun of those cars?

Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Reddy45] #4672995
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Don't the kids make fun of those cars?


Maybe, but then there is always walking which is no fun! Price is right.


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Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #4672996
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Better be really inexpensive. It's a terrible car all around-- appearance, comfort, performance, gas mileage, longevity. Thus an ideal first car.

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Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #4672999
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I'd be humiliated driving a PT Cruiser to school.

They're also terrible cars.


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Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #4673001
02/21/18 11:19 AM
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How experienced is the kid? Also how tall?

The visibility may not be OK for a newbie driver. (Big A-pillars + back-window visibility)

disclaimer: Last I drove one of those it was 2009 and it was an automatic.

It has a lot of space inside. I think the HHR cousin has a better reputation.

Now, generally they have a bad reputation, but I would look at the chrysler PT cruiser forums first. The guys there found some aftermarket replacements for some problems (motor mounts), or better procedures than some OEM (replacing back sparkplugs?)

Even with the bad reputation, I still see some running around here in rust territory.

How many miles? (belt replacement?)


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Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #4673008
02/21/18 11:23 AM
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I can agree on the sentiment that a first car doesn't need to be great.. and most kids nowadays are.. meh they're kids.

But driving a PT Cruiser is a prophylactic in itself.. and OK yeah maybe that is also the intent here. LOL


But man.. I'd rather be seen in a Kia Soul than a PT Cruiser.

Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #4673017
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Buy him some Nikes instead.

Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #4673018
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PT Cruiser engines are an interference engine, which means if the timing belt breaks the pistons will hit the valves that are open. The timing belt generally breaks somewhere between 80 K miles and 95 K miles if it is not replaced before then. Doing the timing belt on a PT Cruiser is a major job that cost a lot.

If the timing belt breaks the damage to the engine is so severe that the cost to replace the broken parts is more than the vehicle is worth.

So if you get a PT Cruiser replace the timing belt every 80 K miles.


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Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #4673040
02/21/18 11:40 AM
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Guys, anybody missed, the OP wants to get the kid in a stick-shift/standard car as the first car?
I think is pretty good for momentum, gears, just drive with no other distractions....

OP, is this also meant as a mechanical learning first car?

Please type "pt cruiser site:bobistheoilguy.com" in google for everything pt cruiser on BITOG over the years.

Also my thread asking about them: here


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Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: pandus13] #4673101
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Originally Posted By: pandus13
Guys, anybody missed, the OP wants to get the kid in a stick-shift/standard car as the first car?
I think is pretty good for momentum, gears, just drive with no other distractions....

OP, is this also meant as a mechanical learning first car?

Please type "pt cruiser site:bobistheoilguy.com" in google for everything pt cruiser on BITOG over the years.

Also my thread asking about them: here


Basically an inexpensive car to get him from point A to point B. He will be learning to do his own maintenance on it. Yes, it looks ugly. But, it is less than $3k, has new tires, recent tune up, manual tranny, and under 50k miles.


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Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #4673105
02/21/18 12:26 PM
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My son had a lady run a red light into his Civic about a month ago. Airbags deployed, alot of front damage but cockpit remained intact. He was fine. The young lady in a PT had to have the FD remove her from the PT and helicopter her to hospital. Cockpit crumbled on her. This is just my take on it. I'm glad my son was in a civic when I saw the 2 vehicles. PT has a bad safety record and safety is a priority with young drivers. Just my take!

Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #4673113
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Rebodied neon design IIRC. Poor design all around. Almost as bad as the new Dodge Dart.

Get a mid seventies dodge or chevy pickup. Something that can be fixed with JY parts on the cheap.


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Re: Looking at a 2003 PT Cruiser for the kid [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #4673159
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Do NOT buy a PT. Just don't. They're horrid cars on every level.

It's not even worth elaboration. Just... Don't.


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