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#4672418 - 02/20/18 08:14 PM So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test
tempnexus Offline


Registered: 02/11/16
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#4672423 - 02/20/18 08:18 PM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: tempnexus]
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Originally Posted By: tempnexus

Lol. But on the other hand there are non-oil substances that do very well in one of his "tests". Maybe those substances should be poured into the engine instead?
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#4672425 - 02/20/18 08:19 PM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: kschachn]
tempnexus Offline


Registered: 02/11/16
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I don't know do they?

I mean do I have an engine to break no. So he has been non biased in testing so is he wrong and if so then why?1


Edited by tempnexus (02/20/18 08:20 PM)

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#4672440 - 02/20/18 08:31 PM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: tempnexus]
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Registered: 03/06/16
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Loc: toronto
So ya wanna do an engine friction test, but choose an engine with very little internal friction to begin with, to see if you can notice obvious changes in RPM and run time on a pint of gas, am I understanding this correctly?

I did really enjoy seeing the slo-mo of the main jet 'skeeting' gasoline up against the throttle plate though laugh

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#4672441 - 02/20/18 08:32 PM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: tempnexus]
JLTD Offline


Registered: 12/15/17
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Thanks for the video - as I always suspected, another gimmick that has no benefit.
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#4672453 - 02/20/18 08:41 PM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: tempnexus]
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I think heís right. I donít think 58 minutes is long enough, and I donít think cylinder head temp is a valid indicator of friction between the piston and cylinder. I would like to see a 40+ hour test (2k miles roughly) and oil temps instead. Although, I donít know that a 5-horse Briggs accurately simulates a car engine. Love Project Farm though!

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#4672485 - 02/20/18 09:06 PM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: tempnexus]
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I would have liked to see him run only MOS2 in the engine (no oil).
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#4672516 - 02/20/18 09:36 PM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: tempnexus]
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#4672547 - 02/20/18 10:04 PM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: tempnexus]
Linctex Offline


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Doesn't Liqui Moly MOS2 eventually just end up in the oil filter?
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#4672730 - 02/21/18 07:00 AM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: Linctex]
wag123 Offline


Registered: 06/14/11
Posts: 868
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Doesn't Liqui Moly MOS2 eventually just end up in the oil filter?

No.

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#4672738 - 02/21/18 07:05 AM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: Linctex]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
Posts: 445
Loc: West Ma.
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Doesn't Liqui Moly MOS2 eventually just end up in the oil filter?


I hope not, I have some coming in the mail..

Supposedly not.. Moly click here

Engineers and scientists have tried for years to use Moly in motor oils but they had been unsuccessful because they could not find a way to keep Moly in suspension. Once Moly was put into suspension it would gradually settle out. It was easy to see it come out of suspension because a black sludge would collect on the bottom of the oil containers. In engines it would settle to the bottom of the crankcase or clog oil pathways and filters.

Engineers have overcome these obstacles. They have developed a process that keeps Moly in suspension and isnít filtered out. Since that time theproduct has undergone extensive independent testing in labs and in the field for many years to insure that the product stands up to the rigorous needs of todayís engines. With the plating action of Moly reducing friction which reduces heat, this helps keep rings free from carbon buildup, prevents blow-by, decreases emission, and extends oil life.
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#4672746 - 02/21/18 07:16 AM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: rollinpete]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
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Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: rollinpete
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Doesn't Liqui Moly MOS2 eventually just end up in the oil filter?


I hope not, I have some coming in the mail..

Supposedly not.. Moly click here

Engineers and scientists have tried for years to use Moly in motor oils but they had been unsuccessful because they could not find a way to keep Moly in suspension. Once Moly was put into suspension it would gradually settle out. It was easy to see it come out of suspension because a black sludge would collect on the bottom of the oil containers. In engines it would settle to the bottom of the crankcase or clog oil pathways and filters.

Engineers have overcome these obstacles. They have developed a process that keeps Moly in suspension and isnít filtered out. Since that time theproduct has undergone extensive independent testing in labs and in the field for many years to insure that the product stands up to the rigorous needs of todayís engines. With the plating action of Moly reducing friction which reduces heat, this helps keep rings free from carbon buildup, prevents blow-by, decreases emission, and extends oil life.


The moly doesn't get filtered out, however MOS2 will fall out of suspension in engines that aren't used everyday. Case in point, Trav had posted MOS2 settled in the bottom of an oil pan in one of his vehicles that wasn't driven on a daily basis, [it sat for weeks sometimes months at a time]. Several other respected members had posted similar observations over the years which is why I stopped using the product. There are better moly choices than MOS2 for moly as part of an ad pack that oil makers use for that very reason.

I recall a discussion I had with Trav about Ceratec falling out of suspension in a compressor he tried it in as well.
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#4672759 - 02/21/18 07:39 AM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: tempnexus]
wag123 Offline


Registered: 06/14/11
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Loc: Texas
It takes a fair amount of running time at operating temperature for MOS2 to plate-out, so adding it to an engine and immediately testing it's effectiveness is not a valid test. In a vehicle, it takes at least 500 miles for it to begin to do it's job.

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#4673254 - 02/21/18 01:17 PM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: wag123]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
Posts: 445
Loc: West Ma.
Originally Posted By: wag123
It takes a fair amount of running time at operating temperature for MOS2 to plate-out, so adding it to an engine and immediately testing it's effectiveness is not a valid test. In a vehicle, it takes at least 500 miles for it to begin to do it's job.

So say I put some moly in just before I'm going to my favorite trolling spot 35 miles away.. Then drive an average of 100 miles a week after that would I be okay? Would the moly settle in my oil pan?
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#4673301 - 02/21/18 01:46 PM Re: So basically MOS2 Liqui Moly done [censored] on the test [Re: rollinpete]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29741
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: rollinpete
Originally Posted By: wag123
It takes a fair amount of running time at operating temperature for MOS2 to plate-out, so adding it to an engine and immediately testing it's effectiveness is not a valid test. In a vehicle, it takes at least 500 miles for it to begin to do it's job.

So say I put some moly in just before I'm going to my favorite trolling spot 35 miles away.. Then drive an average of 100 miles a week after that would I be okay? Would the moly settle in my oil pan?



In a daily driver it shouldn't settle out. If I wanted to boost moly I'd use Lubegard Biotech Engine Protectant. They use a moly that isn't going to fall out of suspension like MOS2 can. Lots of info on the site about it.
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