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M1 10W-30 in 2010 Honda Rancher 4 wheeler #4649955
01/29/18 10:59 AM
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A while back there was worry about synthetic oils and wet dish clutches. I just bought a Honda Rancher and I need to change the oil in it soon. I have plenty of M1 10W-30 and would like to use that in it, assuming it won't ruin the clutch. I have been using the old formula 15W50 M1 in my dirt bikes and street bikes without issue but it was made before the friction modifiers were being used. A lot of folks were using Rotella T synthetic at the time but last I looked they want as much for 2 quarts of that as a whole 5 qt jug of M1.

Perry

Re: M1 10W-30 in 2010 Honda Rancher 4 wheeler [Re: perryg114] #4649987
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If it says Energy Conserving dont use it. Otherwise you will be fine.

Re: M1 10W-30 in 2010 Honda Rancher 4 wheeler [Re: perryg114] #4649990
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Valvoline motorcycle 10W40 at Wal-Mart, $4 per quart, good stuff. Save the M1 for the cars.


17 Chrysler Pacifica Mobil 1 5W30
13 Yamaha XT250 Valv MC 10W40
12 Suzuki S40 Rotella 15W40
10 Acura TSX 2.4 PZL Plat 5W30
06 GMC Sierra Nextgen 10W30


Re: M1 10W-30 in 2010 Honda Rancher 4 wheeler [Re: perryg114] #4650289
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use Shell Rotella T 15w40....$14 a gallon


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Re: M1 10W-30 in 2010 Honda Rancher 4 wheeler [Re: perryg114] #4658111
02/06/18 03:58 PM
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As others have stated, try not to use automotive oil in anything with a wet clutch. The exception being some 10w40 or 15w40 oils without the energy conserving label.... but with the abundance of quality wet clutch (motorcycle/ATV) oils available at decent price points, I don't see the point of running anything else.

EDIT: as someone else pointed out, T4 actually meets JASO standards for use in wet clutch applications.

Last edited by JimmyD; 02/06/18 04:03 PM.

2014 Mazda 3 2.0L 6MT
Re: M1 10W-30 in 2010 Honda Rancher 4 wheeler [Re: perryg114] #4658731
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perryg114 Offline OP
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Well the Rotella T and the Vavoline are conventional oils not synthetics. I already have some Delo 400 I can use if I want conventional oil. The Rotella T synthetic has gone through the roof lately.

Perry

Re: M1 10W-30 in 2010 Honda Rancher 4 wheeler [Re: perryg114] #4661388
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Here is some Mobil synthetic that is apparently suitable for wet clutches.

Last edited by Snagglefoot; 02/09/18 10:09 PM.

If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: M1 10W-30 in 2010 Honda Rancher 4 wheeler [Re: perryg114] #4701038
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Iíve been gravitating to the Mobil 1 pictured above for motorbikes and ATVís. Walmart usually has it, or similar stores.

Re: M1 10W-30 in 2010 Honda Rancher 4 wheeler [Re: sunruh] #4701125
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Originally Posted By: sunruh
use Shell Rotella T 15w40....$14 a gallon


Are you still o.k. with this going from CJ to CK?


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Re: M1 10W-30 in 2010 Honda Rancher 4 wheeler [Re: Snagglefoot] #4701132
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Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
Here is some Mobil synthetic that is apparently suitable for wet clutches.



good stuff but super expensive..wonder if the rebate works on this flavor.


16 Civic Coupe Touring 33k
640:1 TCW-3 E091
Edge 0/40 XG7317
Firehawk Indy 500

06 4Runner SR5 141k
640:1 TCW-3
M1 0/40 XG3614
Falken Wildpeak AT3W
Re: M1 10W-30 in 2010 Honda Rancher 4 wheeler [Re: perryg114] #4711397
03/30/18 10:31 AM
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Orlando, FL
perryg114 Offline OP
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I am having shifting problems with my Honda Rancher with electric shift. It gets better when it is hot. I don't know what the PO put in there. I already put grease in the reduction gear box for the electric shift with no improvement. It seems to be internal friction on the dog clutches. I figure synthetic would smooth that up a bit. I am tempted to use the standard 10W30 M1 and see what happens.


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