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Oil level question #4643671
01/23/18 07:39 AM
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I put Mobil 1 AP 0w20 in the 3 back in May of 2017. I only drive 3 days a week to work and each way is only 6 miles. Several times during the winter after the car has sat all night I had to move it out of the driveway to let my gf get her car out. The car only sees very short trips.

The oil level has always been right at the top hole since I did the change and for several months after. Yesterday I checked it after the car sat all night and again after a drive (waiting 5 minutes) and itís now showing to be 50% above the top hole.

The only thing I can think of is itís moisture or fuel. I went on an hour long highway drive last week too and I guess that did not help burn any of the moisture off. There are currently 3,240 miles on the oil.

I was thinking of getting it changed. I realize color doesnít mean much but it still looks light gold fwiw.

Iíve never had the oil level go up. It usually always goes down.



Re: Oil level question [Re: buster] #4643687
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Our Mazda 5 plays those tricks on me too. If it isn't dead flat where I check it after a oil change it is either low or too full. Never had a car before that acted that way. Ours has the 2.5L


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Re: Oil level question [Re: buster] #4643713
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I have 50k on it and itís never done this though. And when i changed the oil itís always been at the full mark.



Re: Oil level question [Re: buster] #4643753
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buster, can you give us some details about the car and engine?


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Re: Oil level question [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4643757
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
buster, can you give us some details about the car and engine?


Yep definitely needed

My cherokee pentastar seems to go up very slightly with extended short tripping.. although I try to hit a 30mile+ trip once a week or so.


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Re: Oil level question [Re: buster] #4643763
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Buster if you wipe the stick down any fuel smell in the oil ?


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Re: Oil level question [Re: buster] #4643808
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Not good if its a good reading. Check PCV. Coolant level OK? That much rise has always been a HG or IM gasket, IME.
Regardless That short tripping and moving the car is a engine killer whatever you do.

Can you take a 300ml sample and hot plate it outside and see how much evaps off in an hour.

You can try to light the vapours after a few mins simmer. If they don't light its likely water/coolant.

Read up on blotter tests too for easy check.
Personally, I'm not too good at reading those.


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Re: Oil level question [Re: buster] #4643827
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Itís a 2015 3 with the 2.0.

I can smell fuel in the oil but thatís the case with most engines I think.



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Coolant level is fine. Oil had strong smell of gasoline. Itís likely fuel IMO.



Re: Oil level question [Re: buster] #4643839
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At over 3k i would simply dump the oil and not worry about it. If the vehicle is driven this way all the time, I would not go over 5k on oil changes.


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Re: Oil level question [Re: buster] #4643857
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^ I agree. This also coincided with my new 6 mile commute and short trip driving so it all makes sense.



Re: Oil level question [Re: buster] #4643863
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Originally Posted By: buster
^ I agree. This also coincided with my new 6 mile commute and short trip driving so it all makes sense.


Maybe you were also idling more than usual during the cold blast the East Coast had a short while ago?


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M1 5W30 d1G2
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Re: Oil level question [Re: buster] #4643886
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Many many < 10 mile trips during a lot of the winter.



Re: Oil level question [Re: buster] #4643897
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Plan a good 1 hour hard highway trip to a nice restaurant instead of changing the oil. The Level should go back. Your TBN reserve will likely be OK IF you get water and fuel out.

Or just change the oil.


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I did that last week and itís still high.



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