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#4641581 - 01/21/18 05:46 AM Brush guards
buck91 Offline


Registered: 04/17/12
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Loc: West Michigan
Is it just me or does it seem like all the brush guard options on he market hear days have rather wimpy mount Mounting? Id enjoy adding one to my truck but if its just going to fold up with a minor impact not sure what the point is.
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#4641594 - 01/21/18 06:38 AM Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91]
SVTCobra Offline


Registered: 12/11/09
Posts: 701
Loc: Battle Creek, MI
Ranch Hand grille guards can be full replacement. Only caution is my brother was in a wreck and the designed crush zones did not absorb the impact. Instead it twisted the frame badly and was without a truck for 3 months while the dealer repaired it. Ended up trading it in because it never really drove the same.

https://www.ranchhand.com/grille-guard-front-bumpers

I have one on my pickup (that I got from my brother) and he welded it to the frame.
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#4641605 - 01/21/18 06:59 AM Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91]
JeepWJ19 Offline


Registered: 09/09/15
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Loc: PENNSYLVANIA
Yepp. Same thing when I was shopping for them. Found a guy who made relocation brackets for WJ bull bars to actually protect the grille (all stock bull bars mounting arms run below the front bumper). His brackets which were thick slabs of steel are located in my frame horns, along with other brackets he made for DRing recovery points.
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#4641681 - 01/21/18 08:45 AM Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91]
AZjeff Offline


Registered: 01/14/11
Posts: 2636
Loc: PV Az
The name should tell you something. Deflecting brush or branches away from the front of your truck isn't the same as any small impact (define small impact?). You bolt/weld something to your frame horns that extends 2 feet up then run into whatever and it's supposed to not bend or stop your 5000 lb truck without moving, bending, damaging something? These huge ranch bull bars on ranch trucks are a different story.
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#4641703 - 01/21/18 09:08 AM Re: Brush guards [Re: AZjeff]
Kira Offline


Registered: 08/19/10
Posts: 5233
Loc: Champlain/Hudson Valley
Re "Bull Bar" episode.
Friend's 2008 Nissan Frontier.
Local place misread the Westin catalog and ordered the wrong item.
Had to wait 'til opening time in California for the rep to tell us: 2008 Pathfinder YES, 2008 Frontier: NO.

Local place ordered up a better quality one and ate the difference. Tip o' the hat to Lavine's in New Milford, CT.
Friend is a good customer.
Much thicker stainless steel...mounted similar to the Pathfinder unit (as best I could tell)...Made in China.

It moves too much being it's mounted low. The hardware is butch to be sure but it's all down low.

Since his neighbor raises goats we call it a "Goat Bar".

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#4641721 - 01/21/18 09:24 AM Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91]
nickaluch Offline


Registered: 10/04/08
Posts: 379
Loc: Long Island,nassau county NY
Not a fan. My friend got into a bad car accident front airbags didn't go off insurance adjuster blamed the front brush guard.
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#4641731 - 01/21/18 09:36 AM Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91]
AZjeff Offline


Registered: 01/14/11
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Loc: PV Az
Truck bling like the roll bars bolted to the bed floor every other guy had back in the day. Nothing wrong with that for what it is.
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#4641870 - 01/21/18 11:55 AM Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
I have one because of all the dang deer!

I have hit 7 deer in my life, and all caused MAJOR $$$$ damage when there was no grille guard/brush guard
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#4641879 - 01/21/18 12:00 PM Re: Brush guards [Re: JeepWJ19]
dlundblad Offline


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 10028
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
Yepp. Same thing when I was shopping for them. Found a guy who made relocation brackets for WJ bull bars to actually protect the grille (all stock bull bars mounting arms run below the front bumper). His brackets which were thick slabs of steel are located in my frame horns, along with other brackets he made for DRing recovery points.


What brand did you end up going with? I wanted a bull bar ~8 years ago, but didn't want to sacrifice my factory tow points, hence why my IPF's are mounted on my front bumper. Briefly, there was a company who made milled WJ front end D ring tow points, but I think they sold the design to someone else. Easy design. Can't believe it didn't take off.
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#4641880 - 01/21/18 12:03 PM Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91]
dlundblad Offline


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 10028
Loc: Indiana
I wouldn't count on these brush guards helping during a vehicle collision, but a deer collision they certainly would take the biggest hit. Brush guards are just that though. BRUSH guards. You'd want a full replacement/ tow point unit such as an ARB model. There'd be no deer left at that point.
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#4641893 - 01/21/18 12:33 PM Re: Brush guards [Re: dlundblad]
JeepWJ19 Offline


Registered: 09/09/15
Posts: 932
Loc: PENNSYLVANIA
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
Yepp. Same thing when I was shopping for them. Found a guy who made relocation brackets for WJ bull bars to actually protect the grille (all stock bull bars mounting arms run below the front bumper). His brackets which were thick slabs of steel are located in my frame horns, along with other brackets he made for DRing recovery points.


What brand did you end up going with? I wanted a bull bar ~8 years ago, but didn't want to sacrifice my factory tow points, hence why my IPF's are mounted on my front bumper. Briefly, there was a company who made milled WJ front end D ring tow points, but I think they sold the design to someone else. Easy design. Can't believe it didn't take off.


I went with the prior known Texas Hunter bull bar. Forget what they are called now. They got bought out by a Chinese company and went with a "one size fits all" design so my bull bar wasn't at the right width for the relocation mounts. So currently it's offset by an inch but you can't hardly notice it unless looking straight at it and being very attentitive to it.

I wanted recovery points like you did so bought his DRing tabs and they have come to really good use.

The brush guard has held up nicely for the past three years. Could use a touch up in paint but was still solid after hitting a young deer, since it was mounted higher it forced the deer to roll under the Jeep and it was just a weird event because my Jeep straddled the deer when it was under. The deer seemed fine as by the time I pulled over it was gone. It has protected my grille from brush many of times here in the PA mountains. It was overall a good purchase.

Currently drawing the wiring diagram for off road lights because it gets dark up in the mountains and a little extra light on some twisty and tight dirt/stone roads would help




Edited by JeepWJ19 (01/21/18 12:38 PM)
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#4641927 - 01/21/18 01:13 PM Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91]
Johnny2Bad Offline


Registered: 05/20/13
Posts: 1810
Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
They are all bolt-on expensive junk (the worst kind of junk, at least cheap junk is cheap) as far as I can tell. Go to a good weld/fab shop and have them make one. It won't be more expensive than the Truck Store special and will work and will fit.
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#4642304 - 01/21/18 07:54 PM Re: Brush guards [Re: JeepWJ19]
AZjeff Offline


Registered: 01/14/11
Posts: 2636
Loc: PV Az
Are you calling this a brush guard? I'd call it a bull bar or a push bar. Brush guards as I know them have the extensions out past the headlights. You hit a whitetail with this and got no damage on either side of it? Lucky. Good looking Jeep BTW. Grand Cherokee HD. thumbsup

What part of Pa?
Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19




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#4642791 - 01/22/18 11:02 AM Re: Brush guards [Re: AZjeff]
JeepWJ19 Offline


Registered: 09/09/15
Posts: 932
Loc: PENNSYLVANIA
Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Are you calling this a brush guard? I'd call it a bull bar or a push bar. Brush guards as I know them have the extensions out past the headlights. You hit a whitetail with this and got no damage on either side of it? Lucky. Good looking Jeep BTW. Grand Cherokee HD. thumbsup

What part of Pa?


Yeah I just realized I got my terminologies mixed up but it has kept brush out of my grille lol!

Yepp, it was a doe, not full sized but not a fawn. Hit it dead on in the center front of the jeep, straddled it, and she was gone. Weird how nothing was damaged, all I found was some fur.

Thank you, it's an ever work in progress lol.

South Central pa
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#4664310 - 02/12/18 08:37 PM Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91]
carloz Offline


Registered: 01/03/17
Posts: 43
Loc: Fl
Well, a bull bar will look good but it won't give the best front-end protection.

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