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Brush guards #4641581
01/21/18 05:46 AM
01/21/18 05:46 AM
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West Michigan
buck91 Offline OP
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Is it just me or does it seem like all the brush guard options on he market hear days have rather wimpy mount Mounting? Id enjoy adding one to my truck but if its just going to fold up with a minor impact not sure what the point is.


2011 F150 4x4 5.0L
1996 Mustang GT 5spd/ragtop
Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91] #4641594
01/21/18 06:38 AM
01/21/18 06:38 AM
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Battle Creek, MI
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Ranch Hand grille guards can be full replacement. Only caution is my brother was in a wreck and the designed crush zones did not absorb the impact. Instead it twisted the frame badly and was without a truck for 3 months while the dealer repaired it. Ended up trading it in because it never really drove the same.

https://www.ranchhand.com/grille-guard-front-bumpers

I have one on my pickup (that I got from my brother) and he welded it to the frame.


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Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91] #4641605
01/21/18 06:59 AM
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Yepp. Same thing when I was shopping for them. Found a guy who made relocation brackets for WJ bull bars to actually protect the grille (all stock bull bars mounting arms run below the front bumper). His brackets which were thick slabs of steel are located in my frame horns, along with other brackets he made for DRing recovery points.


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Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91] #4641681
01/21/18 08:45 AM
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The name should tell you something. Deflecting brush or branches away from the front of your truck isn't the same as any small impact (define small impact?). You bolt/weld something to your frame horns that extends 2 feet up then run into whatever and it's supposed to not bend or stop your 5000 lb truck without moving, bending, damaging something? These huge ranch bull bars on ranch trucks are a different story.


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Re: Brush guards [Re: AZjeff] #4641703
01/21/18 09:08 AM
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Champlain/Hudson Valley
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Re "Bull Bar" episode.
Friend's 2008 Nissan Frontier.
Local place misread the Westin catalog and ordered the wrong item.
Had to wait 'til opening time in California for the rep to tell us: 2008 Pathfinder YES, 2008 Frontier: NO.

Local place ordered up a better quality one and ate the difference. Tip o' the hat to Lavine's in New Milford, CT.
Friend is a good customer.
Much thicker stainless steel...mounted similar to the Pathfinder unit (as best I could tell)...Made in China.

It moves too much being it's mounted low. The hardware is butch to be sure but it's all down low.

Since his neighbor raises goats we call it a "Goat Bar".

Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91] #4641721
01/21/18 09:24 AM
01/21/18 09:24 AM
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Long Island,nassau county NY
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Not a fan. My friend got into a bad car accident front airbags didn't go off insurance adjuster blamed the front brush guard.


2007 G6 beater.2012 E450 box truck. 2018 Chevy Traverse.2017 E450 box truck.2017 Chevy 3500 extend cargo van.
Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91] #4641731
01/21/18 09:36 AM
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Truck bling like the roll bars bolted to the bed floor every other guy had back in the day. Nothing wrong with that for what it is.


86 Samurai 1.3 leftovers
14 RAV4 2.5 5W-20 PP
16 Silverado 1500 4.3, DI, AFM 5W-30 PP

The most important thing to do in your life is to not interfere with someone else's life. - Frank Zappa

Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91] #4641870
01/21/18 11:55 AM
01/21/18 11:55 AM
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I have one because of all the dang deer!

I have hit 7 deer in my life, and all caused MAJOR $$$$ damage when there was no grille guard/brush guard


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Re: Brush guards [Re: JeepWJ19] #4641879
01/21/18 12:00 PM
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Indiana
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Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
Yepp. Same thing when I was shopping for them. Found a guy who made relocation brackets for WJ bull bars to actually protect the grille (all stock bull bars mounting arms run below the front bumper). His brackets which were thick slabs of steel are located in my frame horns, along with other brackets he made for DRing recovery points.


What brand did you end up going with? I wanted a bull bar ~8 years ago, but didn't want to sacrifice my factory tow points, hence why my IPF's are mounted on my front bumper. Briefly, there was a company who made milled WJ front end D ring tow points, but I think they sold the design to someone else. Easy design. Can't believe it didn't take off.


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Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91] #4641880
01/21/18 12:03 PM
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Indiana
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I wouldn't count on these brush guards helping during a vehicle collision, but a deer collision they certainly would take the biggest hit. Brush guards are just that though. BRUSH guards. You'd want a full replacement/ tow point unit such as an ARB model. There'd be no deer left at that point.


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 202k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 153k Synpower 5w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

Re: Brush guards [Re: dlundblad] #4641893
01/21/18 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
Yepp. Same thing when I was shopping for them. Found a guy who made relocation brackets for WJ bull bars to actually protect the grille (all stock bull bars mounting arms run below the front bumper). His brackets which were thick slabs of steel are located in my frame horns, along with other brackets he made for DRing recovery points.


What brand did you end up going with? I wanted a bull bar ~8 years ago, but didn't want to sacrifice my factory tow points, hence why my IPF's are mounted on my front bumper. Briefly, there was a company who made milled WJ front end D ring tow points, but I think they sold the design to someone else. Easy design. Can't believe it didn't take off.


I went with the prior known Texas Hunter bull bar. Forget what they are called now. They got bought out by a Chinese company and went with a "one size fits all" design so my bull bar wasn't at the right width for the relocation mounts. So currently it's offset by an inch but you can't hardly notice it unless looking straight at it and being very attentitive to it.

I wanted recovery points like you did so bought his DRing tabs and they have come to really good use.

The brush guard has held up nicely for the past three years. Could use a touch up in paint but was still solid after hitting a young deer, since it was mounted higher it forced the deer to roll under the Jeep and it was just a weird event because my Jeep straddled the deer when it was under. The deer seemed fine as by the time I pulled over it was gone. It has protected my grille from brush many of times here in the PA mountains. It was overall a good purchase.

Currently drawing the wiring diagram for off road lights because it gets dark up in the mountains and a little extra light on some twisty and tight dirt/stone roads would help



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Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91] #4641927
01/21/18 01:13 PM
01/21/18 01:13 PM
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Saskatchewan, Canada
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They are all bolt-on expensive junk (the worst kind of junk, at least cheap junk is cheap) as far as I can tell. Go to a good weld/fab shop and have them make one. It won't be more expensive than the Truck Store special and will work and will fit.


'57 FL Straight 50 wt
'90 Miata 1.8L w/Rotrex Supercharger [Mobil1 0W-40]
'96 Ram 1500 [3.7L Mobil1 0W-20 / 1L 15W-50]
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Re: Brush guards [Re: JeepWJ19] #4642304
01/21/18 07:54 PM
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Are you calling this a brush guard? I'd call it a bull bar or a push bar. Brush guards as I know them have the extensions out past the headlights. You hit a whitetail with this and got no damage on either side of it? Lucky. Good looking Jeep BTW. Grand Cherokee HD. thumbsup

What part of Pa?
Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19






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16 Silverado 1500 4.3, DI, AFM 5W-30 PP

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Re: Brush guards [Re: AZjeff] #4642791
01/22/18 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Are you calling this a brush guard? I'd call it a bull bar or a push bar. Brush guards as I know them have the extensions out past the headlights. You hit a whitetail with this and got no damage on either side of it? Lucky. Good looking Jeep BTW. Grand Cherokee HD. thumbsup

What part of Pa?


Yeah I just realized I got my terminologies mixed up but it has kept brush out of my grille lol!

Yepp, it was a doe, not full sized but not a fawn. Hit it dead on in the center front of the jeep, straddled it, and she was gone. Weird how nothing was damaged, all I found was some fur.

Thank you, it's an ever work in progress lol.

South Central pa


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Re: Brush guards [Re: buck91] #4664310
02/12/18 08:37 PM
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Well, a bull bar will look good but it won't give the best front-end protection.

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