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0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat #4637334
01/17/18 03:58 AM
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My 2004 Ford Lariat has a 5.4 3 valve engine. It has about 51,000 miles on the truck. The past owner died in 2009. The truck sat in the widows garage until she traded it in last year at the Ford dealership I work at. After it went through the used car check and repair process I told my boss I wanted to buy it. The tech that did the oil change said the oil was very nasty. He said it looked like the oil and filter was there from 2009. Anyway, the shop foreman said the VCT solenoids need to be changed but said he wouldn't mess with it. Just drive it. I was wanting to know if a 0w30, or a 0W40 oil will be ok to use in it to make the noise quiet after it warms up? I'm using 5W20 bulk and a MC oil filter.

Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: CajunLariat] #4637362
01/17/18 05:30 AM
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Short oil changes with conventional can clear the screens on the solenoids. Does not work every time, though. This will not fix a stretched timing chain.


1998 Honda Accord EX 2.3L Auto (Sold) 214k mi
2009 Scion tC Manual (Daily Driver) 165k mi
Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: CajunLariat] #4637367
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Why wouldnt the shop foreman mess with the VCT solenoids? Theres an update to the part (they changed the screen and oil outlet port size to better direct oil flow) and on your 04 you dont even have to remove the valve covers. I did mine on my 07 removing valve covers and all and would do it again no question.
When I bought my truck the engine was very neglected, oil was a orange rust color. Several 3k oil changes over the course of 30,000 miles finally cleaned it up enough that I could feel comfortable exending the oci. Fwiw Pennzoil platinum 5w30 has been the only oil to quiet my engine down but thats purely anecdotal.

Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: CajunLariat] #4637420
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If the manual calls for 5W-20, then you can use 0W-20. 0W-20 is actually thinner when cold than 0W-30 or 0W-40. It would flow the fastest on startup out of any other viscosities.

Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: CajunLariat] #4637493
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Vct, cam phasers, sparkplugs... Oh my!

I hate the 3 valve engines.

Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: Charlie2015] #4637729
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Originally Posted By: Charlie2015
Short oil changes with conventional can clear the screens on the solenoids. Does not work every time, though. This will not fix a stretched timing chain.

My dad, member Blueovalfitter, said the same thing. When I brought it home he had me go to walmart and buy 2 motorcraft oil filters, 2 5 quart containers of Pennzoil 5w20 oil, and 2 bottles of Marvel mystery oil. We are doing 2 5000 mile oil changes. In fact the 2nd one I'm on now is about 200 miles from 5000 miles. It has quieted down a good bit and don't run as ruff. My dad said he will listen to it and tell me if I can use a good synthetic oil. He is cutting the oil filter open to see if there is anything in there. He said something about Pennzoil platinum or Mobil 1.

Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: CajunLariat] #4637782
01/17/18 02:12 PM
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Nice to see another fellow Cajun on here.

As far as oil goes, I'd run a good synthetic 5W30 with a Fram Ultra or ToughGuard every 5k.


2006 2500 Dodge 5.9 Cummins Mobil Delvac 15W40, Fleetguard Stratapore 90k miles
Early '99 F250 ECLB 7.3 Stroker, 223k miles
Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: mobilaltima] #4637836
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Originally Posted By: mobilaltima
Nice to see another fellow Cajun on here.

As far as oil goes, I'd run a good synthetic 5W30 with a Fram Ultra or ToughGuard every 5k.

My dad (Blueovalfitter) is a member here too. He lives in Avoyelles Parish. But he's on "VACATION" right now.
I will tell him about the 5W30 oil. He's in there watching the Barrett-Jackson auction.

Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: CajunLariat] #4637865
01/17/18 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: CajunLariat
My dad (Blueovalfitter) is a member here too. He lives in Avoyelles Parish. But he's on "VACATION" right now.
I will tell him about the 5W30 oil. He's in there watching the Barrett-Jackson auction.

Interesting, so you're not him in disguise?


1994 BMW 530i, 238K
1996 Honda Accord, 266K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 407K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: CajunLariat] #4637934
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Im guessing you wont leave the filter on for a 2nd interval? grin2

Meh, who am I kidding, a Purolator couldnt handle it crackmeup


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 88k Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 231k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 147k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: kschachn] #4637956
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: CajunLariat
My dad (Blueovalfitter) is a member here too. He lives in Avoyelles Parish. But he's on "VACATION" right now.
I will tell him about the 5W30 oil. He's in there watching the Barrett-Jackson auction.

Interesting, so you're not him in disguise?

I'm his son, Robert. I am a detailer/service lane crew member at a local Ford dealer. He has used my account to send PM's and reads the replies every now and then. And, you are the 1st member I get to put on ignore. BYE!

Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: CajunLariat] #4638097
01/17/18 07:07 PM
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I've sent your dad filters before in the mail. Next time in the area I'll have to meet up with yall. I'm from Lafourche Parish


2006 2500 Dodge 5.9 Cummins Mobil Delvac 15W40, Fleetguard Stratapore 90k miles
Early '99 F250 ECLB 7.3 Stroker, 223k miles
Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: mobilaltima] #4638157
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Originally Posted By: mobilaltima
I've sent your dad filters before in the mail. Next time in the area I'll have to meet up with yall. I'm from Lafourche Parish

My dad just read your reply and wants me to tell you to pm him after Febuary 10. He said he will be back from vacation then.
We are going to WM to get some M1 0w40 and a fram ultra oil filter for my truck. I decided to use that combo. My dad said it should finish the cleaning stage and the 40 weight oil will quiet my engine after it heats up.

Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: CajunLariat] #4638204
01/17/18 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: CajunLariat
When I brought it home he had me go to walmart and buy 2 motorcraft oil filters, 2 5 quart containers of Pennzoil 5w20 oil, and 2 bottles of Marvel mystery oil.
I've what I think is the same engine in a 2008, old heads; mine has a 7 qt crankcase. Are you just putting 5.5 qts (MMO is a pint, correct?) in it?

Re: 0W30, 0W40, In My 2004 Lariat [Re: George Bynum] #4638210
01/17/18 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: George Bynum
(MMO is a pint, correct?) in it?


Should be a quart or 32 ounces. Per directions up to 20% of the fill can be MMO.

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