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#4629339 - 01/09/18 02:12 PM Differing Oil Specs
3putter Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 459
Loc: Memphis, TN.
Just bought a 2017 Buick Envision. Nice car, great deal. Surprisingly made in China with 98% Chinese parts content. Engineered and designed in Detroit. Here's my question. The owners manual plainly states to use Dexos 1 5w30 with AC Delco Syn Blend recommended.On the engine fill cap it states Dexos 5w20. Dealer says all they stock is 5w30. What weight do you think is best?

2.5 liter 4 cyl engine with 197 hp. Interestingly, have the same engine and drive train in my 2009 Malibu and it takes plain old dino 5w30 and doesn't use a drop.

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#4629346 - 01/09/18 02:24 PM Re: Differing Oil Specs [Re: 3putter]
demarpaint Offline


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I'd use 5W30. Opinions will vary.
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#4629348 - 01/09/18 02:26 PM Re: Differing Oil Specs [Re: 3putter]
wemay Offline


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Loc: Southeast Florida
Flip a coin. Congrats on the new Buick. The Envision is sharp.
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#4629350 - 01/09/18 02:28 PM Re: Differing Oil Specs [Re: 3putter]
CT8 Offline


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It will not make a difference which visc you use. The 5W-30 will be fine.
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#4629379 - 01/09/18 03:00 PM Re: Differing Oil Specs [Re: 3putter]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1732
Loc: Alberta
I'd recommend to go with the owner's manual. I'll bet the writing on the cap has no legal standing for your warranty. You might check the forums to see if anyone else had the issue.

Regarding the Chinese made car, it seems to be a first as far as I know. Does the President of the United States know about this?

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#4629390 - 01/09/18 03:08 PM Re: Differing Oil Specs [Re: 3putter]
CharlieBauer Offline


Registered: 03/29/16
Posts: 1177
Loc: CA
Originally Posted By: 3putter
Just bought a 2017 Buick Envision. Nice car, great deal. Surprisingly made in China with 98% Chinese parts content. Engineered and designed in Detroit. Here's my question. The owners manual plainly states to use Dexos 1 5w30 with AC Delco Syn Blend recommended.On the engine fill cap it states Dexos 5w20. Dealer says all they stock is 5w30. What weight do you think is best?

2.5 liter 4 cyl engine with 197 hp. Interestingly, have the same engine and drive train in my 2009 Malibu and it takes plain old dino 5w30 and doesn't use a drop.


The 2.0 Turbo takes 5w30. The 2.5 takes 5w20.

Can you check your manual to see if that's the distinction?
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#4629549 - 01/09/18 05:35 PM Re: Differing Oil Specs [Re: 3putter]
skyactiv Offline


Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 4397
Loc: The Midwest
Copy & paste for the rescue:

Viscosity Grade
Use SAE 5W-20 viscosity grade
engine oil for the 2.5L L4 engine.
SAE 0W-20 may be used as an
alternative.
Use SAE 5W-30 viscosity grade
engine oil for the 2.0L L4 turbo
engine. In an area of extreme cold,
where the temperature falls below
−29 C (−20 F), an SAE 0W-30 oil
may be used. An oil of this viscosity
grade will provide easier cold
starting for the engine at extremely
low temperatures.
When selecting an oil of the

source -
http://www.buick.com/content/dam/Buick/n...al-2ndprint.pdf

I'd use 5W20 stating Dexos 1 gen 2.
The Chinese bought 990K Buicks last year. It's a popular brand in China. The average annual wage in the prefecture where it's manufactured
is the same as the cheapest buick a Chinese can buy new. It's not poverty central everywhere in China.
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#4629604 - 01/09/18 06:29 PM Re: Differing Oil Specs [Re: 3putter]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: 3putter
Just bought a 2017 Buick Envision. Surprisingly made in China with 98% Chinese parts content.


Wow... Interesting
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#4630664 - 01/10/18 04:01 PM Re: Differing Oil Specs [Re: 3putter]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1732
Loc: Alberta
The Chinese folks really have a thing for Buicks. Goes way back to the early 1900's.

SF

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#4630893 - 01/10/18 08:37 PM Re: Differing Oil Specs [Re: 3putter]
MedicalDoc Offline


Registered: 01/01/18
Posts: 7
Loc: South Carolina, U.S.A.
Bad translation? mad

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#4630907 - 01/10/18 08:48 PM Re: Differing Oil Specs [Re: 3putter]
aquariuscsm Offline


Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 18170
Loc: Dallas,Tx USA
My friend's Odyssey says 5W30 on the cap but 5W20 in the owner's manual. The quick lube she goes to uses Castrol 10W30 hm (it's written on the oil change sticker). I changed it for her one time with PP 5W20 and it ran so much smoother. I think it has around 230,000-240,000 miles on it.
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#4631204 - 01/11/18 08:59 AM Re: Differing Oil Specs [Re: aquariuscsm]
tig1 Offline


Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 13661
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
My friend's Odyssey says 5W30 on the cap but 5W20 in the owner's manual. The quick lube she goes to uses Castrol 10W30 hm (it's written on the oil change sticker). I changed it for her one time with PP 5W20 and it ran so much smoother. I think it has around 230,000-240,000 miles on it.


M1 0-20 would be a great choice as it has the spec and will protect the engine quite nicely.
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#4631249 - 01/11/18 10:00 AM Re: Differing Oil Specs [Re: MedicalDoc]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1732
Loc: Alberta
Originally Posted By: MedicalDoc
Bad translation? mad


My apologies.

In the country of China, Buicks are very popular, having had a long history in China that dates back to the early 1900's.

SF

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