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#4625828 - 01/06/18 11:37 AM Prestone pre-mixed 50/50?
irv Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 1075
Loc: Oshawa, Ont. Canada
I was looking last night for a jug of antifreeze/coolant for my 2013 Ram but couldn't find any at my local CDN Tire store but I did notice this Prestone pre-mixed 50/50 which read, "Safe for all vehicles"?

Maybe it's just me, but I thought most manu's had their own blend any only those should be used in the vehicle you owned. I didn't think anything existed or would exist that would be safe in all automobiles.

I am not sure my Ram is down any, I just wanted to have some on hand as it is currently on sale and I am pretty sure if I were to purchase the Mopar/Ram coolant, the price would floor me.
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/prestone-premixed-antifreezecoolant-all-makes-formula/6000016949963

Thoughts on this? Would you use it in whatever vehicle you owned or would that concern you some?
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#4625844 - 01/06/18 11:49 AM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: irv]
Snagglefoot Online   content


Registered: 12/31/17
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Loc: Alberta
I donít know the Ram Antifreeze that well but I would not want to mix this with GMís Dexcool. I top up my Ford yellow Antifreeze with the Prestone and I have one Ford Taurus that has Prestone in it. I never had any problems using Prestone Antifreeze.

Also, up here the 50/50 blend is over priced compared to 100 % and a jug of distilled water. Itís mostly for convenience. Sort of like buying a soft drink at 7-11. LOL.

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#4625857 - 01/06/18 12:01 PM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: Snagglefoot]
irv Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
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Loc: Oshawa, Ont. Canada
Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
I donít know the Ram Antifreeze that well but I would not want to mix this with GMís Dexcool. I top up my Ford yellow Antifreeze with the Prestone and I have one Ford Taurus that has Prestone in it. I never had any problems using Prestone Antifreeze.

Also, up here the 50/50 blend is over priced compared to 100 % and a jug of distilled water. Itís mostly for convenience. Sort of like buying a soft drink at 7-11. LOL.



Embarrassingly, I don't either but like Dexcool for GM's, I am pretty sure Fiat/Ram also has their own and that is why this struck me as I didn't think anything was out there that was compatible for all makes?
Prestone is a reputable company so I can't think they'd market something like this if there was fear about compatibility?

I normally like to mix my antifreeze at 60/40 or even 70/30 as I find 50/50 is a bit on the weak side for the climes I am subjected too.

Time to get out my manual and educate myself better!


Edited by irv (01/06/18 12:02 PM)
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#4625884 - 01/06/18 12:20 PM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: irv]
Jeffs2006EvoIX Offline


Registered: 02/28/10
Posts: 1623
Loc: Imperial Valley, California
The Autoparts store you went to had no ZEREX G05 I think its called? Its in a Gold Bottle and is specifically for MOPAR cars. Every Car parts store I have ever been to has it? Where did you go that didn't?


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#4625903 - 01/06/18 12:29 PM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: Jeffs2006EvoIX]
irv Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 1075
Loc: Oshawa, Ont. Canada
Originally Posted By: Jeffs2006EvoIX
The Autoparts store you went to had no ZEREX G05 I think its called? Its in a Gold Bottle and is specifically for MOPAR cars. Every Car parts store I have ever been to has it? Where did you go that didn't?


Jeff


If they normally carry it, none was in stock as I searched high and low for it. Everything else was available, including a ton for foreign cars but zero, none, nil for Mopar.

CDN Tire is also a car parts store, among other things, but it's where most people go to purchase items/things for their vehicles when they don't feel like purchasing from their vehicles manufacturer.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en.html
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#4625917 - 01/06/18 12:37 PM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: irv]
ruhroh Offline


Registered: 12/11/16
Posts: 110
Loc: NC
Prestone and just about all other all-make-all-models AF are usually dexclones anyway.

Check and then double-check what your truck needs. I think Mopar switched out coolant requirements away from G05 sometime in '12 or '13.

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#4625923 - 01/06/18 12:42 PM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: ruhroh]
zrxkawboy Offline


Registered: 11/30/04
Posts: 1761
Loc: SD
Originally Posted By: ruhroh
Prestone and just about all other all-make-all-models AF are usually dexclones anyway.

Check and then double-check what your truck needs. I think Mopar switched out coolant requirements away from G05 sometime in '12 or '13.


Right. What color is your OEM stuff? Pink or orange = GO5. The new OAT stuff is purple.
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#4625992 - 01/06/18 01:31 PM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: irv]
Sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 12272
Loc: The Old North State
In 2013 FCA Chrysler went to an OAT AF with no 2eha. It's purple tinted now. Prestone is a Dexclone containing 2eha, I wouldn't use it as an alternative to the Mopar AF. Can read more about the current Mopar OAT AF in the links. I'd stick with Mopar OAT.

http://articles.sae.org/11284/

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/hoat-oat-one-for-the-record-books-258369.html

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#4626061 - 01/06/18 02:44 PM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: irv]
BigD1 Offline


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 2575
Loc: NC
The latest formulation of Prestone with cor-guard has phosphates. PQIA tested it!

http://www.pqiadata.org/Prestone5050Prediluted.html
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#4626099 - 01/06/18 03:37 PM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: irv]
irv Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 1075
Loc: Oshawa, Ont. Canada
Great information guys (I wish I could multiquote!)

My Ram is a 13 and, IIRC, I think my reservoir color is orange? It is too cold out currently and getting dark but I will check tomorrow for sure to see if it is OAT or HOAT, or to see if there is a ID sticker on the outside of the reservoir?

I did not know any of this so I am grateful I didn't add any to my truck.
That is some great info and I appreciate you taking the time to copy and past those links! cheers
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#4626111 - 01/06/18 04:03 PM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: irv]
irv Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 1075
Loc: Oshawa, Ont. Canada
Scratch the above post. I just went out to check but I couldn't find a spot well enough to check the color nor any place where a ID sticker might be?

I did grab my manual, however, and in it, it reads, "We recommend you use MOPAR Antifreeze/Coolant 10 Year/150,000 mile Formula Oat (Organic Additive Technology). My trucks holds/take 16 quarts or 15 liters.
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#4626381 - 01/06/18 08:38 PM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: irv]
Nyogtha Offline


Registered: 10/13/14
Posts: 2327
Loc: San Antonio, TX
My 2012 Ram was the last model year for G-05 HOAT 5 yr / 100,000 mile coolant.

Your truck takes Mopar OAT 10 year / 150,000 mile coolant which is dyed purple and made by Reochem, Reochem offers an equivalent in orange dye for MS-12106, but it's 5 year / 150,000 mile rated.

http://articles.sae.org/11284/


http://www.recochem.com/us/products/oem_...tifreezecoolant

I'd just buy the purple OEM stuff ftom Amazon personally.


https://www.amazon.com/Mopar-Year-Mile-Coolant-Premixed/dp/B017DP43ZC

https://www.amazon.com/Mopar-Performance-68163849AA-Antifreeze/dp/B00CMTM9QA
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#4626428 - 01/06/18 09:25 PM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: Nyogtha]
irv Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 1075
Loc: Oshawa, Ont. Canada
Originally Posted By: Nyogtha
My 2012 Ram was the last model year for G-05 HOAT 5 yr / 100,000 mile coolant.

Your truck takes Mopar OAT 10 year / 150,000 mile coolant which is dyed purple and made by Reochem, Reochem offers an equivalent in orange dye for MS-12106, but it's 5 year / 150,000 mile rated.

http://articles.sae.org/11284/


http://www.recochem.com/us/products/oem_...tifreezecoolant

I'd just buy the purple OEM stuff ftom Amazon personally.


https://www.amazon.com/Mopar-Year-Mile-Coolant-Premixed/dp/B017DP43ZC

https://www.amazon.com/Mopar-Performance-68163849AA-Antifreeze/dp/B00CMTM9QA





Thanks for those links. The one is definitely a good deal at $20.00. I haven't checked my dealer but I bet it's a lot more than that!

Thanks. cheers
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#4626437 - 01/06/18 09:36 PM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: irv]
Nyogtha Offline


Registered: 10/13/14
Posts: 2327
Loc: San Antonio, TX
The $20 stuff is 50/50 premix, the $24 stuff is concentrate from what I can tell.

Agreed, the dealership will likely have a significantly higher price.

I'd return the Prestone unless you have another vehicle that uses something along those lines.

I wish Mopar had kept Valvoline as their antifreeze provider instead of switching to CCI Manufacturing; if it was made by Valvoline there'd likely be a Zerex aftermarket equivalent readily available. Fiat strikes again!
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#4626624 - 01/07/18 07:08 AM Re: Prestone pre-mixed 50/50? [Re: Nyogtha]
Sayjac Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 12272
Loc: The Old North State
Quote:
...... Reochem offers an equivalent in orange dye for MS-12106, but it's 5 year / 150,000 mile rated.

http://www.recochem.com/us/products/oem_...tifreezecoolant

...

While Recochem lists the Mopar spec as one of several including GM and Ford (both spec DexCool), the "orange" looks most like a DexCool OAT equivalent to me. Until and unless it could be confirmed that OEM 'orange' doesn't contain/use 2eha used in all DexCool OAT AF's, I would not use it or consider it.

As noted, at this point Mopar proprietary formula OAT AF is the best option for the topic application.

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