Recent Topics
'02 Explorer Sport Trac: 302k mile update
by 14Accent. 10/18/18 10:43 PM
BMW 335 Quick Coolant Change
by antonmnster. 10/18/18 09:58 PM
190k miles
by Marco620. 10/18/18 09:56 PM
tire rotation/jack location
by mobilaltima. 10/18/18 09:23 PM
Apparently I'm not allowed to...
by BMWTurboDzl. 10/18/18 08:41 PM
2014 Cruze 2.0, AMSOIL DHD 7k miles 68k total
by Rat407. 10/18/18 08:32 PM
Stabilizer needed for 5-6 month storage?
by Quattro Pete. 10/18/18 08:29 PM
Clearance ST filter cut open
by barkingspider. 10/18/18 07:56 PM
0W20 Required for Jeep Auto Stop/Start
by harbor. 10/18/18 05:42 PM
School buses + Colder Temps = MPG Nosedive
by RayCJ. 10/18/18 05:20 PM
Meguiars Wax
by dslofti. 10/18/18 04:41 PM
New Ariens Snow Blower Advice
by gathermewool. 10/18/18 04:35 PM
Sunsong Power Steering Hoses
by The Critic. 10/18/18 04:10 PM
AC DELCO UPF64R ULTRA GOLD CUT OPEN
by 53' Stude. 10/18/18 03:42 PM
PH 2808 TORN! CUT OPEN
by 53' Stude. 10/18/18 03:36 PM
Newest Members
Whyssosseriouss, TNflash, The74impala, Ryan1122, ston123
66244 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
66 registered members (379KITTY, Anduril, 14Accent, 69GTX, ABomb369, 5 invisible), 1,348 guests, and 35 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics292,158
Posts4,875,106
Members66,244
Most Online2,494
Oct 17th, 2018
Donate to BITOG
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Mobil 1 0W30 AFE #4621177
01/01/18 10:00 PM
01/01/18 10:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,215
Golden Meadow, LA
mobilaltima Offline OP
mobilaltima  Offline OP
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,215
Golden Meadow, LA
Friends vehicle, 2015 Chevy Equinox with the 2.4 DI engine, 31k miles. Since new, I've changed her oil with a Fram Ultra XG9018 and Dexos 5W30, mostly Smittys Super Syn 5W30, whenever the OLM hits 30%, which equals to around 5-5500k miles. It's short tripped alot. Shes a teacher, and the school is only 0.3 miles from her house, she takes her vehicle because she always has alot of papers and classroom supplies to bring,(otherwise she would ride a bike) so, 5 days a week, 0.3 miles to school and then the same in the afternoon. She does go on a long trip every now and then. I'm assuming this engine is susceptible to fuel dilution being DI. Would it be ok and possibly better to run AFE 0W30 due to her frequent short trips, or would fuel dilution be a greater concern?

Last edited by mobilaltima; 01/01/18 10:00 PM.

2006 2500 Dodge 5.9 Cummins Mobil Delvac 15W40, Fleetguard Stratapore 90k miles
Early '99 F250 ECLB 7.3 Stroker, 223k miles
Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: mobilaltima] #4621180
01/01/18 10:02 PM
01/01/18 10:02 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 33,252
ME
eljefino Offline
eljefino  Offline
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 33,252
ME
I think the Smittys changed often is a better plan.

Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: mobilaltima] #4621216
01/01/18 10:47 PM
01/01/18 10:47 PM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,140
SF BAY AREA, CA
dogememe Online content
dogememe  Online Content
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,140
SF BAY AREA, CA
Dexos 5W30 is the right action. Read up on timing chain problems with modern engines (especially GM) and stick with the "right stuff"


2010 Ford Escape FWD 2.5 ~90K Miles
Currently: Royal Purple 5W-30, Wix 51348
I prefer Royal Purple, Valvoline, Castrol, and O'Reilly oils.
Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: mobilaltima] #4621221
01/01/18 10:53 PM
01/01/18 10:53 PM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,215
Golden Meadow, LA
mobilaltima Offline OP
mobilaltima  Offline OP
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,215
Golden Meadow, LA
0W30 AFE is Dexos approved. Itll most likely be Supertech Dexos 5W30 in the Equinox from here on out


2006 2500 Dodge 5.9 Cummins Mobil Delvac 15W40, Fleetguard Stratapore 90k miles
Early '99 F250 ECLB 7.3 Stroker, 223k miles
Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: mobilaltima] #4621250
01/02/18 12:16 AM
01/02/18 12:16 AM
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 542
Texas (south)
FermeLaPorte Offline
FermeLaPorte  Offline
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 542
Texas (south)
I would change the oil 3k every 3 months. Fuel dilution is a big issue that people in this forum don't really consider.


Always Mobil 1
2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.
Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: mobilaltima] #4621317
01/02/18 04:37 AM
01/02/18 04:37 AM
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 17,211
Michigan
daves87rs Offline
daves87rs  Offline
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 17,211
Michigan
Besides the noise (made my engine loud when I used it), it would be a good choice...


Coming together is a beginning; keeping together is progress; working together is success.

Henry Ford
Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: daves87rs] #4621320
01/02/18 04:50 AM
01/02/18 04:50 AM
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,080
Texas
4WD Offline
4WD  Offline
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,080
Texas
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Besides the noise (made my engine loud when I used it), it would be a good choice...


1) Im really waiting for technical folks to jump in and explain this noise that the long time users have not dealt with and explain what makes this noise since Mobil is known to use many blends to make a finished product as do others.
2) Im also the one who did dB tests on two vastly different motors and PUP was #4 behind 3 M1 products I bought the meter when my wife noticed PUP was louder she would not know how to open a hood

Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: 4WD] #4621323
01/02/18 05:17 AM
01/02/18 05:17 AM
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,094
Virginia
bbhero Offline
bbhero  Offline
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,094
Virginia
Hey 4wd, we have some people who have the diagnosis of CHS.... Can't Hear Stuff.. Well you know you can opt for a different S descriptive term there smile

This diagnosis is in the same family class of CRS and CSS. Can't Remember Stuff and Can't See Stuff. Again stuff can be easily replaced by another descriptive term here as well.

In your case you must be given credit for actually testing with a piece of legitimate equipment. Well done.


Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe
Quaker State High Mileage 5w30 Purolator Boss 14610
"Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."
Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: 4WD] #4621330
01/02/18 06:11 AM
01/02/18 06:11 AM
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 2,326
Malaysia
zeng Online content
zeng  Online Content
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 2,326
Malaysia
So do I .... blush

Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: mobilaltima] #4621339
01/02/18 06:41 AM
01/02/18 06:41 AM
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 30,608
NY
demarpaint Offline
demarpaint  Offline
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 30,608
NY
5K OCI may or may not be a good thing, considering that the vehicle is short tripped a lot and is DI. This vehicle imo is a prime candidate for a UOA. That would eliminate a lot of guess work.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: mobilaltima] #4621367
01/02/18 07:47 AM
01/02/18 07:47 AM
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 534
Louisiana
SuzukiGoat Offline
SuzukiGoat  Offline
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 534
Louisiana
Quote:
Golden meadow


You seem like a man to talk to about some shrimp.


2003 Nissan Xterra 4x4 M1 HM 10w40
2001 Toyota 4runner 4x4 M1 0w40
2016 Yamaha YXZ1000R VR1 20w50

Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: mobilaltima] #4621382
01/02/18 08:19 AM
01/02/18 08:19 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,215
Golden Meadow, LA
mobilaltima Offline OP
mobilaltima  Offline OP
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,215
Golden Meadow, LA
Suzukigoat, my grandfather was a lifelong shrimper, I know pretty much every shrimper along Bayou Lafourche. Are you looking to buy some?


2006 2500 Dodge 5.9 Cummins Mobil Delvac 15W40, Fleetguard Stratapore 90k miles
Early '99 F250 ECLB 7.3 Stroker, 223k miles
Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: mobilaltima] #4621458
01/02/18 09:49 AM
01/02/18 09:49 AM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 12,248
N.H, U.S.A.
ARCOgraphite Offline
ARCOgraphite  Offline
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 12,248
N.H, U.S.A.
Forget the 0W that spec is rated at 35/40 below zero. Doesn't Mean ANYTHING about oil at Zreo degree or 32 degreees. look at the Viscosity index of the oil and the KV40. A high VI and a low KV 40 might help a tad bit - but not much unless you are currently running a KV40 of 64 and a VI of 140.

I don't know what the KV 40 and VI is of M1 0W30.

I will look it up though smile
.
.
.

Here it is

KV40: 63 cSt
VI 166

Last edited by ARCOgraphite; 01/02/18 09:55 AM.

2014 Nissan Rogue S CVT, OC#9 41392mi-QSUD10W30 + M110A CHAMP Filter; 2017 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#2 ?? mi-SOA/Idemitsu 0w20 + SOA Filter
Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: FermeLaPorte] #4621473
01/02/18 09:58 AM
01/02/18 09:58 AM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,565
The land of USA-made Subies!
SubieRubyRoo Offline
SubieRubyRoo  Offline
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,565
The land of USA-made Subies!
Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
Fuel dilution is a big issue that people in this forum don't really consider.


I disagree wholeheartedly... every time someone posts a UOA of a 3.5EB (especially) that shows fuel dilution of 5, 6, 7, 10%, hordes of people jump on the fuel dilution bandwagon and say retarded things like "Change the oil with every gas tank fill-up or your engine will explode!" Dnewton had quite the nice post on smacking these people in the face with data that proves 99% of their fears are unfounded.

Yes, fuel dilution is higher than in port-injected engines. Understood. But the whole point of a UOA is to determine wear TRENDS and to highlight anomalies in the operating conditions of an engine. If an engine returns 5% fuel dilution and yet wear RATES are essentially equal to port-injected engines (say 2ppm Fe/1k miles), the engine is saying that sure, there is fuel, but nothing untoward is yet happening.

For reference, look at the old carbureted Chevy 350s. Many of them had fuel dilution problems because the carb needles would stick and heavily overfuel the engine... AND UOAs of 350 Chevys routinely return 9+ ppm FE/1k... but nobody really freaks out about these UOAs! Let the data do the talking. Just say no to imitating Chicken Little.

Re: Mobil 1 0W30 AFE [Re: mobilaltima] #4621481
01/02/18 10:06 AM
01/02/18 10:06 AM
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 4,278
New England
Virtus_Probi Offline
Virtus_Probi  Offline
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 4,278
New England
Have to agree that 0WXX is probably a waste way down South.
0W30 AFE is good oil and I'm sure it will work fine, but its cold weather properties will be meaningless at the temps you will experience.
If fuel dilution is that much of a concern, maybe look for an oil that's thicker than 10.9cSt at 100C like that AFE? I don't know if HTHS is worth looking at too carefully in that engine given that it will rarely get up to a regular operating temp, much less an extreme temp. For example, M1 5W30 AP ($) is 11.7 cSt at 100C while M1 5W30 ESP ($$) is 12 cSt at that temp (the latter also has a very high HTHS for its grade), but only the former is a dexos1 oil while ESP is dexos2 (diesel). Pennzoil Gold 5W30 blend is also 11.7 cSt at 100C as well as dexos1 licensed, FWIW.

Last edited by Virtus_Probi; 01/02/18 10:08 AM.

2014 Forester XT, 90000 miles
Last Change;
M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Page 1 of 2 1 2

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™