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#4616896 - 12/28/17 04:09 PM Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 20463
Loc: Upstate NY
Its about 4F today and was -4F this morning. Just went out to start my pickup and it turns over and tries to catch but then dies.

I do not see a glow plug coil icon on the dash display when I first turn on the key, nor anything close to it that goes off after a short period.

Ford owners manual says wait for the glow plug coil light to go off and then start the truck.

Is my glow plug coil icon light broken? Are the glow plugs working? How long to wait after turning the key to on assuming the light is broken?

Says block heater only needed below -10F.

I buy fuel locally so it should be winterized.
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#4616914 - 12/28/17 04:29 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: Donald]
fields Offline


Registered: 04/11/03
Posts: 120
Loc: TX
They should stay on for about two minutes if they are working. Turn key on and check voltage. It should drop. When I find myself in cold situations, I run the glow plugs twice.

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#4616919 - 12/28/17 04:34 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: Donald]
Audios Offline


Registered: 11/19/11
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Loc: Lyndhurst NJ
My tdi only runs the light for about 10 seconds per cycle, so I cycle a few times to get them cooking.


Edited by Audios (12/28/17 04:34 PM)
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#4616928 - 12/28/17 04:41 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: Donald]
roadrunner1 Offline


Registered: 04/08/09
Posts: 1285
Loc: oh
Your '15 PowerStroke glow plug light will only illuminate for a couple seconds, if you don't know where to look you'll miss it. If your truck won't start my money is on a fuel issue. It was -8 F here this morning and my '15 popped right off.
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#4616943 - 12/28/17 05:01 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: Donald]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
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Could still be fuel related, I had to dump a bottle of Diesel 911 in the GMC yesterday at 6F. It started today (with some difficulty after being plugged in for a couple hours).
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#4616961 - 12/28/17 05:33 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: Donald]
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Gelled fuel most likely. Wait till it warms up and try it again.
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#4616980 - 12/28/17 05:49 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: roadrunner1]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
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Loc: Upstate NY
Originally Posted By: roadrunner1
Your '15 PowerStroke glow plug light will only illuminate for a couple seconds, if you don't know where to look you'll miss it. If your truck won't start my money is on a fuel issue. It was -8 F here this morning and my '15 popped right off.


OK, where do I look? Several idiot lights under tach and more under the speedometer.

From the owners manual I know what to look for.

Looked at the owners manual and do not see any fuse labeled "glow plugs" in either fuse panel.
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#4616984 - 12/28/17 05:53 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: Donald]
Little_Lebowski Offline


Registered: 02/14/17
Posts: 24
Loc: Michigan
Plug your truck in.... Way easier on everything. I plug mine in anytime it gets below 20 Deg. F

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#4616994 - 12/28/17 06:04 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: Donald]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 32650
Loc: ME
Can you feel the engine near the plugs to see if they feel warm? Do you notice the dome light dimming when the plugs run then brightening when they're done? Hear a relay click?

My benz has a glow plug light and I thought that was standard for anything diesel powered. I also had rough cold starts at 60 degrees without working plugs. IOW you should have been having problems before today. Maybe you just blew its fuse. Have a fuse in that position?

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#4616995 - 12/28/17 06:05 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: Donald]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 41791
Loc: New Jersey
Do you know where the relay(s) is/are? You should be able to hear the click. You should also be able to see the battery voltage drop pretty substantially. Have you checked any of this?

Does Ford allow you to give throttle when cranking?

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#4617036 - 12/28/17 06:48 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: eljefino]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 20463
Loc: Upstate NY
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Can you feel the engine near the plugs to see if they feel warm? Do you notice the dome light dimming when the plugs run then brightening when they're done? Hear a relay click?

My benz has a glow plug light and I thought that was standard for anything diesel powered. I also had rough cold starts at 60 degrees without working plugs. IOW you should have been having problems before today. Maybe you just blew its fuse. Have a fuse in that position?


No fuse is listed for "glow plugs"
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#4617067 - 12/28/17 07:31 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: Donald]
roadrunner1 Offline


Registered: 04/08/09
Posts: 1285
Loc: oh
The glow plug light is under the tachometer on the right of all the other lights. You shouldn't even have to wait for it to go off as its not like older gen diesel engines. You should be under warranty just contact your dealer and have it towed in.
Its been cold here for over a week, my '15 had sat since before Christmas and started yesterday morning at -6F without issue, and again today at -8F with no block heater.

My money is still on a fuel issue, if you can't get with dealer to tow is there somewhere you can get it inside to get the lower fuel filter warmed? You could try a lead light and hang it at lower fuel filter to warm it up.
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#4617070 - 12/28/17 07:36 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: Donald]
Michael_P Offline


Registered: 08/20/07
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I really dont know if the 6.7 has an intake heater or not (tried to Google it). But if it does, this will cause cold start issues. I'm actually thinking fuel as well.

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#4617077 - 12/28/17 07:41 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: Michael_P]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 20463
Loc: Upstate NY
Originally Posted By: Michael_P
I really dont know if the 6.7 has an intake heater or not (tried to Google it). But if it does, this will cause cold start issues. I'm actually thinking fuel as well.


The owners manual says glow plugs. My old 1999 Cummins had an intake plate heater.
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#4617116 - 12/28/17 08:12 PM Re: Powerstroke - glow plugs - no start [Re: Donald]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 41791
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: Donald
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Can you feel the engine near the plugs to see if they feel warm? Do you notice the dome light dimming when the plugs run then brightening when they're done? Hear a relay click?

My benz has a glow plug light and I thought that was standard for anything diesel powered. I also had rough cold starts at 60 degrees without working plugs. IOW you should have been having problems before today. Maybe you just blew its fuse. Have a fuse in that position?


No fuse is listed for "glow plugs"


There won't necessarily be a fuse in a fuse box. If it's like my diesels, there's a strip fuse at the relay that feeds the glow plugs. I'd suspect you may have one of these for each bank.

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