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Motorcraft and Pronto filters #4615115
12/26/17 08:53 PM
12/26/17 08:53 PM
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Can the motorcraft FL500S filter, which crosses to an AcDelcoPF63, be safely used on a GM 4.3 DI engine? I'm just concerned due to different bypass specs. When you look up the Wix cross for a 500S, it gives a Wix 57502 with aa 22 psi bypass versus the PF63 cross which is a Wix 57045, and has a 12-15 psi bypass. However Baldwin filters crosses to a B7449 for both an FL500S and PF63. So in other words is it safe to use a motorcraft filter in place of the AcDelco and vice versa? Truck in question is a 2015 Chevy 1500 with the 4.3

Secondly, my buddy has a 2013 Impala 3.6 DI with 145k miles. As I've mentioned before he goes till the OLM hits 0% with the cheapest Dexos oil and filters, no problems yet. We will be removing the manifold soon to change the spark plugs soon so I'll get a good look at the buildup on the valves. He found a local parts store where he can get Pronto filters (Chinese made) for around $2.49 each. So with Supertech 5W30, he can do an oil change for around $25. Should the Supertech with the Pronto filter be fine for an oil change down to 0%? Doing this the OLM usually hits 0 around 5000-5500 miles each time.


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Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima] #4615133
12/26/17 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: mobilaltima
However Baldwin filters crosses to a B7449 for both an FL500S and PF63. So in other words is it safe to use a motorcraft filter in place of the AcDelco and vice versa? Truck in question is a 2015 Chevy 1500 with the 4.3


Short answer = YES. It is safe.

Is there enough room to spin a FL-820S (PH2, TG2, XG2) sized filter up there?


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima] #4615136
12/26/17 09:08 PM
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"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima] #4615139
12/26/17 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: mobilaltima
Secondly, my buddy ...goes till the OLM hits 0% with the cheapest Dexos oil and filters, ....Should the Supertech with the Pronto filter be fine for an oil change down to 0%? Doing this the OLM usually hits 0 around 5000-5500 miles each time.


Try it and find out. Curious to see what the oil filters look like when cut open.


He can't spend another 30 cents and get a SuperTech oil filter?


Harvest King Dexos oil at Atwoods in Texas is only $12 a jug. He could be doing oil changes for $15!


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima] #4615148
12/26/17 09:21 PM
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Linctex, thanks for the quick responses on both this post and the one about the Motorcraft oil.

I am looking into getting a Longacre filter cutter soon so I'll definitely do that.

The only Supertech offered is the smaller PF48 (for reference) size.

He'll be leaving next week to start a job in Texas, I would tell him to get his oil changed there but he has only trusted me since he bought the car 80k miles ago.


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Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima] #4615177
12/26/17 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: mobilaltima

The only Supertech offered is the smaller PF48 (for reference) size


It is still big enough. They get installed on 5.3's all the time.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima] #4615191
12/26/17 10:13 PM
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This is from Rockauto:

But really.... saving $1 or even $2 on an oil filter is kind of silly, IMHO.



"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima] #4615241
12/26/17 11:25 PM
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BTW......

the absolutely biggest oil filter (about 1/2" longer than a PH or XG2) you can get in 22mm

is the Luber-Finer PH26, or the Wix 51372 (Napa 1372) Oil Filter

Principal Application: Ford/Lincoln/Mercury (91-10), Mazda (00-09), Cadillac STS-V, XLR-V (06-09)


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima] #4615242
12/26/17 11:27 PM
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I bought some Pronto filters and they look really well made. I would trust them over some common brands.

Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima] #4615324
12/27/17 03:36 AM
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I used to always toss a few random oil filters into every RockAuto order I placed

But, walmart has has so many on clearance the last year or so, I have enough to last quite a while.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima] #4615427
12/27/17 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: mobilaltima
Can the motorcraft FL500S filter, which crosses to an AcDelcoPF63, be safely used on a GM 4.3 DI engine? I'm just concerned due to different bypass specs. When you look up the Wix cross for a 500S, it gives a Wix 57502 with aa 22 psi bypass versus the PF63 cross which is a Wix 57045, and has a 12-15 psi bypass. However Baldwin filters crosses to a B7449 for both an FL500S and PF63. So in other words is it safe to use a motorcraft filter in place of the AcDelco and vice versa? Truck in question is a 2015 Chevy 1500 with the 4.3

Secondly, my buddy has a 2013 Impala 3.6 DI with 145k miles. As I've mentioned before he goes till the OLM hits 0% with the cheapest Dexos oil and filters, no problems yet. We will be removing the manifold soon to change the spark plugs soon so I'll get a good look at the buildup on the valves. He found a local parts store where he can get Pronto filters (Chinese made) for around $2.49 each. So with Supertech 5W30, he can do an oil change for around $25. Should the Supertech with the Pronto filter be fine for an oil change down to 0%? Doing this the OLM usually hits 0 around 5000-5500 miles each time.



Yes and yes.

Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: Linctex] #4615618
12/27/17 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
BTW......

the absolutely biggest oil filter (about 1/2" longer than a PH or XG2) you can get in 22mm

is the Luber-Finer PH26, or the Wix 51372 (Napa 1372) Oil Filter

Principal Application: Ford/Lincoln/Mercury (91-10), Mazda (00-09), Cadillac STS-V, XLR-V (06-09)


Also AC Delco PF26, similar to the Luber Finer PH26.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=PF26


"No matter how paranoid you are you're not paranoid enough. Tell the truth. Reach as many people as you can with it. That's your weapon." - Susanne Modeski, aka "Holly" to The Lone Gunmen
Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima] #4616964
12/28/17 06:34 PM
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does anyone know if Pronto, Pentius, Prime Guard and Premium Guard oil filters are made by the same company?


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Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima] #4618311
12/29/17 10:58 PM
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I certainly would trust the Baldwin filter application tool.


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