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#4615115 - 12/26/17 07:53 PM Motorcraft and Pronto filters
mobilaltima Offline


Registered: 02/03/11
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Loc: Golden Meadow, LA
Can the motorcraft FL500S filter, which crosses to an AcDelcoPF63, be safely used on a GM 4.3 DI engine? I'm just concerned due to different bypass specs. When you look up the Wix cross for a 500S, it gives a Wix 57502 with aa 22 psi bypass versus the PF63 cross which is a Wix 57045, and has a 12-15 psi bypass. However Baldwin filters crosses to a B7449 for both an FL500S and PF63. So in other words is it safe to use a motorcraft filter in place of the AcDelco and vice versa? Truck in question is a 2015 Chevy 1500 with the 4.3

Secondly, my buddy has a 2013 Impala 3.6 DI with 145k miles. As I've mentioned before he goes till the OLM hits 0% with the cheapest Dexos oil and filters, no problems yet. We will be removing the manifold soon to change the spark plugs soon so I'll get a good look at the buildup on the valves. He found a local parts store where he can get Pronto filters (Chinese made) for around $2.49 each. So with Supertech 5W30, he can do an oil change for around $25. Should the Supertech with the Pronto filter be fine for an oil change down to 0%? Doing this the OLM usually hits 0 around 5000-5500 miles each time.
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#4615133 - 12/26/17 08:06 PM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
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Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: mobilaltima
However Baldwin filters crosses to a B7449 for both an FL500S and PF63. So in other words is it safe to use a motorcraft filter in place of the AcDelco and vice versa? Truck in question is a 2015 Chevy 1500 with the 4.3


Short answer = YES. It is safe.

Is there enough room to spin a FL-820S (PH2, TG2, XG2) sized filter up there?
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#4615136 - 12/26/17 08:08 PM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima]
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Registered: 12/31/16
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#4615139 - 12/26/17 08:12 PM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
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Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: mobilaltima
Secondly, my buddy ...goes till the OLM hits 0% with the cheapest Dexos oil and filters, ....Should the Supertech with the Pronto filter be fine for an oil change down to 0%? Doing this the OLM usually hits 0 around 5000-5500 miles each time.


Try it and find out. Curious to see what the oil filters look like when cut open.


He can't spend another 30 cents and get a SuperTech oil filter?


Harvest King Dexos oil at Atwoods in Texas is only $12 a jug. He could be doing oil changes for $15!
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#4615148 - 12/26/17 08:21 PM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima]
mobilaltima Offline


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Linctex, thanks for the quick responses on both this post and the one about the Motorcraft oil.

I am looking into getting a Longacre filter cutter soon so I'll definitely do that.

The only Supertech offered is the smaller PF48 (for reference) size.

He'll be leaving next week to start a job in Texas, I would tell him to get his oil changed there but he has only trusted me since he bought the car 80k miles ago.
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#4615177 - 12/26/17 09:01 PM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
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Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: mobilaltima

The only Supertech offered is the smaller PF48 (for reference) size


It is still big enough. They get installed on 5.3's all the time.
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#4615191 - 12/26/17 09:13 PM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima]
Linctex Offline


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Loc: Waco, TX
This is from Rockauto:

But really.... saving $1 or even $2 on an oil filter is kind of silly, IMHO.

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#4615241 - 12/26/17 10:25 PM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima]
Linctex Offline


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Loc: Waco, TX
BTW......

the absolutely biggest oil filter (about 1/2" longer than a PH or XG2) you can get in 22mm

is the Luber-Finer PH26, or the Wix 51372 (Napa 1372) Oil Filter

Principal Application: Ford/Lincoln/Mercury (91-10), Mazda (00-09), Cadillac STS-V, XLR-V (06-09)
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#4615242 - 12/26/17 10:27 PM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima]
expat Offline


Registered: 05/12/09
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Loc: Canada
I bought some Pronto filters and they look really well made. I would trust them over some common brands.

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#4615324 - 12/27/17 02:36 AM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6178
Loc: Waco, TX
I used to always toss a few random oil filters into every RockAuto order I placed

But, walmart has has so many on clearance the last year or so, I have enough to last quite a while.
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#4615427 - 12/27/17 07:39 AM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima]
BlueOvalFitter Offline


Registered: 02/28/03
Posts: 6003
Loc: Cajun Country, La.
Originally Posted By: mobilaltima
Can the motorcraft FL500S filter, which crosses to an AcDelcoPF63, be safely used on a GM 4.3 DI engine? I'm just concerned due to different bypass specs. When you look up the Wix cross for a 500S, it gives a Wix 57502 with aa 22 psi bypass versus the PF63 cross which is a Wix 57045, and has a 12-15 psi bypass. However Baldwin filters crosses to a B7449 for both an FL500S and PF63. So in other words is it safe to use a motorcraft filter in place of the AcDelco and vice versa? Truck in question is a 2015 Chevy 1500 with the 4.3

Secondly, my buddy has a 2013 Impala 3.6 DI with 145k miles. As I've mentioned before he goes till the OLM hits 0% with the cheapest Dexos oil and filters, no problems yet. We will be removing the manifold soon to change the spark plugs soon so I'll get a good look at the buildup on the valves. He found a local parts store where he can get Pronto filters (Chinese made) for around $2.49 each. So with Supertech 5W30, he can do an oil change for around $25. Should the Supertech with the Pronto filter be fine for an oil change down to 0%? Doing this the OLM usually hits 0 around 5000-5500 miles each time.



Yes and yes.

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#4615618 - 12/27/17 10:31 AM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: Linctex]
Nyogtha Offline


Registered: 10/13/14
Posts: 2330
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted By: Linctex
BTW......

the absolutely biggest oil filter (about 1/2" longer than a PH or XG2) you can get in 22mm

is the Luber-Finer PH26, or the Wix 51372 (Napa 1372) Oil Filter

Principal Application: Ford/Lincoln/Mercury (91-10), Mazda (00-09), Cadillac STS-V, XLR-V (06-09)


Also AC Delco PF26, similar to the Luber Finer PH26.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=PF26
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#4616964 - 12/28/17 05:34 PM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima]
mobilaltima Offline


Registered: 02/03/11
Posts: 1152
Loc: Golden Meadow, LA
does anyone know if Pronto, Pentius, Prime Guard and Premium Guard oil filters are made by the same company?
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#4618311 - 12/29/17 09:58 PM Re: Motorcraft and Pronto filters [Re: mobilaltima]
NormanBuntz Offline


Registered: 07/27/13
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Loc: Outer Banks, NC
I certainly would trust the Baldwin filter application tool.
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