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96R Battery Options #4612466
12/23/17 08:12 PM
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Everywhere I look there is exactly one option in this size. 45aH and 590 CCA.

Optima does not make a drop in replacement.

Does anyone know of an upgrade in this group size? I have a batteryMINDer on the battery currently and hopefully it desulfates and regains capacity, but if it doesn't I'd like some options. Otherwise I'm going to get another Bosch as this one has given good service

Last edited by SilverFusion2010; 12/23/17 08:12 PM.

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Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612470
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to fit what car now? An upgrade would be out of that group size, more than likely.

Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612473
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Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612501
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Which aspect of battery performance do you need to upgrade? The Odyssey PC1200MJT is a group 96R that might be an upgrade, depending on your needs.

Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612505
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Reserve capacity. 590CCA is plenty to start the car. I have an aftermarket stereo with amps and want to not worry about killing my battery if I listen to the radio with the engine off


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Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612506
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Are you a Samís Club member? If so, they carry a 96R Duracell that is USA made by East Penn. Oreilly Auto Parts carries the same battery with their label. DEKA is another East Penn brand but, I donít think we can get them this far south. Stay away from Walmartís Everstart Max, it is made in Mexico by Johnson Controls. My last one only made it 16 months.

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Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612515
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Funny you should post this, I just bought one today for my Lincoln. Same thing as you, was surprised they were all 590 CCA, I did find one at Napa that was 600 but 10 CCA was hardly worth the extra 22 bucks.

I generally pay a little extra to get the best battery I can, in this size I found few options. frown Bought the Auto Craft GOLD at AAP, have had good luck with those.


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Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612519
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I looked at the odyssey battery. Do they derate their batteries? The specs would indicate less reserve capacity and less CCA than the traditional flooded 96R


Found the super start at O'Rileys. 600CCA 90 reserve min. I'll probably go with that if I need one.

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Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: doitmyself] #4612535
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Originally Posted By: doitmyself
The Odyssey PC1200MJT is a group 96R that might be an upgrade, depending on your needs.


I forget my Odyssey size number, but I have been very pleased with its performance and longevity.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612538
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
Reserve capacity. 590CCA is plenty to start the car. I have an aftermarket stereo with amps and want to not worry about killing my battery if I listen to the radio with the engine off


You really should have a separate SLA/AGM battery for the amps, charged through a "Battery Isolator" (from an RV supply place)


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612562
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There are only a couple of AGM batteries in 96R size I could find and pricing was around $400.

http://4xspower.com/bci_group/96r/

Instead I converted my wife's 2011 Mustang from 96R to Group 48 size battery.

During the Pep Boys Black Friday sale I picked up a Bosch size 48 AGM for $99 after 35% discount code and $30 rebate. It has 48 month full replacement warranty, 720 CCA, 120 reserve minutes, 70 AH. The battery tray is large enough to accomodate a size 48 but had spacers installed to accomodate the 96R instead. I did have to buy a seperate battery insulator for under $20 as the factory wrap for the 96R won't fit a Group 48.

Google around a bit on Group 48 battery for your year Fudion and I'll bet you get some good hits on what's required to convert your car to a Group 48 if you wish to.

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Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612570
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The Super Start from Oíreillyís is an East Penn battery, made in USA. This is a good choice over the Advance Auto, AutoZone or Walmart batteries, made by Johnson Controls in Mexico.


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2017 Ford Escape SE 2.0T Now: Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 & Motorcraft 910s
Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612580
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
I looked at the odyssey battery. Do they derate their batteries? The specs would indicate less reserve capacity and less CCA than the traditional flooded 96R


Found the super start at O'Rileys. 600CCA 90 reserve min. I'll probably go with that if I need one.


Reserve capacity is calculated at 25 Amp load at 80 degree F. until battery voltage drops to 10.5 Volts. 90 minutes reserve would be 1.5 hours at 25 Amps which equals 37.5 Amperhours which is less that the 45 Amperhours of the battery you originally posted info on.


Boy will I be happy when ALL vehicles on public roads are autonomous.


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Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612583
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45 Amperhours is 108 min reserve, so if you want a battery with more than 45 Amperhours reserve look for something with more than 108 min reserve.

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Boy will I be happy when ALL vehicles on public roads are autonomous.


JimPghPa

Re: 96R Battery Options [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4612592
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I don't know anything about the Odyssey battery, but thought that its claim to be better as a rechargeable, deep discharge type battery might offset the lesser capacity.

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