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Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe #4609880
12/21/17 07:48 AM
12/21/17 07:48 AM
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Central IA
Robenstein Offline OP
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Hot on the heals of the Sig's P320 dropgate, it seems another product from Honor Defense is now making the rounds as not drop safe.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/12/jeremy-s/confirmed-honor-guard-pistol-not-drop-impact-safe/


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Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: Robenstein] #4609889
12/21/17 08:12 AM
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Good looking gun, too bad about the poorly executed internals.



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Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: LoneRanger] #4609898
12/21/17 08:23 AM
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Central IA
Robenstein Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
Good looking gun, too bad about the poorly executed internals.


Very true, and sadly the owner of the company is saying there will be no recall and is trying to sling mud at the two reviewers that posted the results.


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Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: Robenstein] #4609912
12/21/17 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted By: Robenstein
Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
Good looking gun, too bad about the poorly executed internals.


Very true, and sadly the owner of the company is saying there will be no recall and is trying to sling mud at the two reviewers that posted the results.


Looks like a big law suit just waiting to happen. This doesn't surprise me with all of the cheaply made plastic semi's, that are being dumped on the market in the last few years. It seems you have to search much harder to find quality, and safety in firearms today, than you did a couple of decades ago.

Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: billt460] #4609925
12/21/17 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: billt460


Looks like a big law suit just waiting to happen. This doesn't surprise me with all of the cheaply made plastic semi's, that are being dumped on the market in the last few years. It seems you have to search much harder to find quality, and safety in firearms today, than you did a couple of decades ago.

True


Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: Al] #4609950
12/21/17 09:26 AM
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Another sad reality when these rinky dink gun companies put this kind of dangerous junk on the market, is most of them are operating on a shoestring budget. And one good law suit will put them out of business. Then, anyone who invested their hard earned money in one of these POS's, is going to be SOL in trying to get parts or extra magazines for them. Which in reality is probably a good thing. Since the lousy, dangerous contraptions shouldn't ever have been put on the market in the first place.

Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: Robenstein] #4610002
12/21/17 10:04 AM
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I can honestly say, I don't recall ever hearing of this pistol prior to this brouhaha.

Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: Robenstein] #4610041
12/21/17 10:40 AM
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Maybe I'm just weird but I generally try not to drop my guns.

And someone who uses a gun in a daily professional setting should probably take care to not let the gun out of their control.

Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: Reddy45] #4610044
12/21/17 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Maybe I'm just weird but I generally try not to drop my guns.

And someone who uses a gun in a daily professional setting should probably take care to not let the gun out of their control.



No one is arguing that point, but a modest blow with a rubber mallet and it fires?

So, get hit by a bad guy, bump into your car door, slip on the ice, and your gun discharges?

That's a POS gun. Please maintain control of your firearm, but a gun that fires with a bump is dangerous no matter how careful you might be.

It should only fire when the trigger is pulled.


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Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: Reddy45] #4610090
12/21/17 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Maybe I'm just weird but I generally try not to drop my guns.



same here, except when a LEO orders me to......

Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: BalticBob] #4610110
12/21/17 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: BalticBob
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Maybe I'm just weird but I generally try not to drop my guns.



same here, except when a LEO orders me to......


LEO orders you to drop your gun. You drop it, and it goes off.

I think you know what happens in the next scene.

No thanks. A firearm that can auto discharge is about as bad as it gets.


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Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: DoubleWasp] #4610169
12/21/17 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Originally Posted By: BalticBob
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Maybe I'm just weird but I generally try not to drop my guns.



same here, except when a LEO orders me to......


LEO orders you to drop your gun. You drop it, and it goes off.

I think you know what happens in the next scene.

No thanks. A firearm that can auto discharge is about as bad as it gets.


+1 frown


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Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: BrocLuno] #4610210
12/21/17 02:03 PM
12/21/17 02:03 PM
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Texas
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Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Originally Posted By: BalticBob
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Maybe I'm just weird but I generally try not to drop my guns.



same here, except when a LEO orders me to......


LEO orders you to drop your gun. You drop it, and it goes off.

I think you know what happens in the next scene.

No thanks. A firearm that can auto discharge is about as bad as it gets.


+1 frown


in the next scene, the result is the same as not complying .......

Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: bigj_16] #4610290
12/21/17 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
I can honestly say, I don't recall ever hearing of this pistol prior to this brouhaha.


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Re: Another Pistol That Is Potentially Unsafe [Re: Robenstein] #4610292
12/21/17 03:03 PM
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From what I can tell Patrick, a former contributor to a youtube channel (TFB TV) brought this to light at the cost of his job. Seems like Honor Defense and TFB TV tried to keep this all under wraps. Looks like TFB TV was getting compensation of some type to hand out only positive reviews.

Patricks new Youtube channel has an interesting VLOG on this. Honor Guard video link

The entire video is very worthwhile watching but make sure you see the screen shot at 8:30 into the video.


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