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Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? #4606897
12/18/17 06:24 AM
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tc1446 Offline OP
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I suspect this has been answered before but couldn't find it searching. Castrol makes both in same weights and tout the wonderfulness of each one. Edge costs several dollars more than Magnatec and both are called "Full Synthetic". What is the difference?


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Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: tc1446] #4607014
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I will make the wild guess that one has a higher percentage of groupIV and V than the other


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Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: tc1446] #4607104
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i was actually wondering this myself as you can get the Magnatec syn in a 5 quart jug for around 17 bucks, which isn't a bad deal


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Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: tc1446] #4607136
12/18/17 12:19 PM
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Running Magnatec full syn. Don't like it at all. And I was a big promoter of Magnatec semi last year. "Full Syn" Not the same magic formula. runs like the old, crummy GIII syntec of years gone by.

Know that Magnatec full syn is NOT full syn - its just semi like most all US "syns".

Maybe my batch was botched. Oil is batch sensitive.


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Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: tc1446] #4607139
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Ill be dumping Magnatec full syn with under 2500 miles on it.
Thought it would go through winter. No way Jose'.

Back to QSUD or dare I say, M1 - but I don't want to have to dump 2wice.

Not sure about qsud 5w-xx flavours; LOVE, love, L-O-V-E-D! the 10w30 non dexos.


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Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4607157
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Running Magnatec full syn. Don't like it at all. And I was a big promoter of Magnatec semi last year. "Full Syn" Not the same magic formula. runs like the old, crummy GIII syntec of years gone by.

Know that Magnatec full syn is NOT full syn - its just semi like most all US "syns".

Maybe my batch was botched. Oil is batch sensitive.


How do you tell? Noisy? Or What?

Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4607158
12/18/17 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
runs like the old, crummy GIII syntec of years gone by.


Need more details. Which engine and how is Magnatec adversely effecting it ?

Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: tc1446] #4607195
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Arco was praising the stuff until he wasn’t.


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Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
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Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: tc1446] #4607196
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I've had the exact opposite experience in the MGM 4.6 in my sig, Magnatec 5W20 & an Ultra cut way back on the cold timing chain rattle it has had since I bought it, and once it gets halfway warmed up there's no noises at all. I can't imagine Edge would be any better, and I have enough $2 quarts from last year's AZ clearance to last the rest of the car's life!


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Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4607209
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Ill be dumping Magnatec full syn with under 2500 miles on it.


I don't know what your reasoning is but I had a 2013 Rogue and used M1 0w-40 in it and was happy.

Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4607287
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
...runs like the old, crummy GIII syntec of years gone by.


Everyone's different, i guess. We used Castrol Synblend (gray bottle) exclusively in my wife's Infiniti M37 Sport. It was just as quiet and smooth as anything else. Same goes for any of the Castrol oils we've tried.


'18 KIA Sportage LX AWD: Mobil Super Synthetic 10w30
'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: tc1446] #4607313
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After all the stuff I've read, the only difference between the two I can verify with certainty is about $10-20 smile

Edge has to have more/better/different additives and/or group percentages that someone referenced above, best I can figure, but it's going to take someone sitting down and sampling it proper with actual metrics before this question gets cracked. I inquired with Castrol about it and they were (understandably?) coy about the particulars outside of the marketing lingo regarding SUPER SMART molecules! This page has the data sheets FWIW on the 5w20 I had my eye on: https://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-states/motor-oil/5w-20-motor-oil.html

But from what I can tell, the promise of a 5-jug for $17 is so nice that most people are willing to just roll with it. [censored], I'm tempted myself.

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Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4607338
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Ill be dumping Magnatec full syn with under 2500 miles on it.
Thought it would go through winter. No way Jose'.

Back to QSUD or dare I say, M1 - but I don't want to have to dump 2wice.

Not sure about qsud 5w-xx flavours; LOVE, love, L-O-V-E-D! the 10w30 non dexos.


this is why i call being in BITOG for too long, and got contagious by all these paranoid and not sleep well at night cause over a dang oil laugh , leave it in and start dont give a [censored] , your life will be alot better. I use to have same feeling, i was dump out mobil 1 for valvoline maxlife cause what I read ...... wasting moneys lol. also start develope an a feeling and made me over worried, over thinking on simple stuff, then one day I start dont give a ... and just go with ANY brand name and sleep well.

Last edited by MetalSlug; 12/18/17 03:21 PM.

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Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: tc1446] #4607384
12/18/17 04:04 PM
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It's all in the ingredients. The Castrol website says Edge with Titanium Fluid Strength Technology is their strongest oil.

Just like Amsoil SS, Mobil 1 AP and Pennzoil Ultra Platium, the strongest oils cost more. That's the difference.


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Re: Difference between Magnatec and Edge "Full Syn"? [Re: 6starprez] #4607395
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Goes back to that saying of you usually get what you pay for.


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