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Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 #4573299
11/13/17 09:25 PM
11/13/17 09:25 PM
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Douglas County, Colorado
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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16] #4573309
11/13/17 09:34 PM
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Wet side WA
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What car and engine and how many miles?

Iron and Silicon numbers are great.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 11/13/17 09:36 PM.

2004 Corolla 126813
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4573315
11/13/17 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
What car and engine and how many miles?

Iron and Silicon numbers are great.


VOA, straight from the new bottle.

They sure dropped the calcium... from 2300+ to under 1000ppm.

Thin 30 weight. Nice strong flash. Interesting. Thanks for the post.


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, XG10575
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w20, Fram DL11665
15 DL650, Rotella T6 5w40, KN-138
Small engines; RT5 10w30
Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16] #4573336
11/13/17 10:14 PM
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Connecticut
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If this is the shape of PP to come, I'll be trying to stock up on the old stuff before it becomes unobtainable. Not very impressive imo other than boron. Not far from a strong 20 grade.


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: 69GTX] #4573344
11/13/17 10:21 PM
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Douglas County, Colorado
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Originally Posted By: 69GTX
If this is the shape of PP to come, I'll be trying to stock up on the old stuff before it becomes unobtainable. Not very impressive imo other than boron. Not far from a strong 20 grade.

This is the shape of just about everything to come, not just PP.

Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: 69GTX] #4573361
11/13/17 11:04 PM
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upstate NY
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Originally Posted By: 69GTX
If this is the shape of PP to come, I'll be trying to stock up on the old stuff before it becomes unobtainable. Not very impressive imo other than boron. Not far from a strong 20 grade.


There are non ash detergents in the oil. Molakule has said somewhere that calcium and magnesium are secondary detergents. I don't know how long that's been the case.

The same thing goes for new HD diesel oils with lower ZDDP. They didn't just lower the ZDDP, they're using stuff we can't see in UOAs to enhance the formulas.

Time will tell I guess, but I think all of these new oils are going to get the job done just fine. I'm putting my faith in low ZDDP HDDEO already and I will be using the new PCMOs (Dexos gen 2) without a worry.

Last edited by dustyroads; 11/13/17 11:09 PM.

2013 F150 XLT 5.0 4X4 104k miles
Edge 5W-30 / Fram 10575
Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: dustyroads] #4573367
11/13/17 11:23 PM
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Northern Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted By: dustyroads
they're using stuff we can't see in UOAs to enhance the formulas.

So, when will UOAs get improved to where they will start to show the unseen stuff?


2016 Sorento SX V6 AWD
2015 KIA RIO SX
2010 Mazda 3 2.0L
2009 Venza V6 AWD
2013 Sonata 2.4L RIP in write-off crash
Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16] #4573382
11/14/17 12:09 AM
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Why does virgin oil have both aluminum and iron in the fresh oil ?

Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16] #4573387
11/14/17 12:24 AM
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great option for 0w20 replacement in honda diluters!

Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16] #4573495
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The new oils are all getting thinner and this PP is another example of that. I have not been a Pennzoil user but the 0w-20 grade of the new PP could be a nice choice for the Mazzy. A nice slug of boron to boot as well.

Thanks bigj_16 for sending in this sample.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16] #4573497
11/14/17 07:35 AM
11/14/17 07:35 AM
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Thanks for the VOA!
As many of the research papers shared on this site concluded, in part, calcium levels directly effect LSPI. Oil companies agree and are adjusting in kind by significantly lowering those levels. Another significant difference is the higher flash point.




18 Sportage 2.4L AWD: Mobil1 Annual Protection 5W20 + Mobil1-104A + e air WIX10335
13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: Pennzoil Platinum 10W30 + FRAM XG9688 + e air WIX49670

Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16] #4573512
11/14/17 07:53 AM
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I find the viscosity @ 100C most interesting, considering the SOPUS QSUD 5w-30 D1G2 is 11.47 when Blackstone sampled it..


https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...Dur#Post4546402

Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: wemay] #4573532
11/14/17 08:21 AM
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Great White North.. eh
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Originally Posted By: wemay
Thanks for the VOA!
As many of the research papers shared on this site concluded, in part, calcium levels directly effect LSPI. Oil companies agree and are adjusting in kind by significantly lowering those levels. Another significant difference is the higher flash point.




I'm curious if the higher flash is to help with valve stem seepage, that some suggest could contribute to valve deposits.


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, XG10575
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w20, Fram DL11665
15 DL650, Rotella T6 5w40, KN-138
Small engines; RT5 10w30
Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: webfors] #4573580
11/14/17 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: webfors
Originally Posted By: wemay
Thanks for the VOA!
As many of the research papers shared on this site concluded, in part, calcium levels directly effect LSPI. Oil companies agree and are adjusting in kind by significantly lowering those levels. Another significant difference is the higher flash point.




I'm curious if the higher flash is to help with valve stem seepage, that some suggest could contribute to valve deposits.


Excellent point.


18 Sportage 2.4L AWD: Mobil1 Annual Protection 5W20 + Mobil1-104A + e air WIX10335
13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: Pennzoil Platinum 10W30 + FRAM XG9688 + e air WIX49670

Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: wemay] #4573617
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wemay,

I just went over to Valvolines site to check their flash point but sadly they dont list it. Any other sources for that info?


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