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#4573299 - 11/13/17 09:25 PM Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2
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#4573309 - 11/13/17 09:34 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16]
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What car and engine and how many miles?

Iron and Silicon numbers are great.


Edited by JohnnyJohnson (11/13/17 09:36 PM)
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#4573315 - 11/13/17 09:40 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: JohnnyJohnson]
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
What car and engine and how many miles?

Iron and Silicon numbers are great.


VOA, straight from the new bottle.

They sure dropped the calcium... from 2300+ to under 1000ppm.

Thin 30 weight. Nice strong flash. Interesting. Thanks for the post.
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#4573336 - 11/13/17 10:14 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16]
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If this is the shape of PP to come, I'll be trying to stock up on the old stuff before it becomes unobtainable. Not very impressive imo other than boron. Not far from a strong 20 grade.
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#4573344 - 11/13/17 10:21 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: 69GTX]
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Originally Posted By: 69GTX
If this is the shape of PP to come, I'll be trying to stock up on the old stuff before it becomes unobtainable. Not very impressive imo other than boron. Not far from a strong 20 grade.

This is the shape of just about everything to come, not just PP.

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#4573361 - 11/13/17 11:04 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: 69GTX]
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Originally Posted By: 69GTX
If this is the shape of PP to come, I'll be trying to stock up on the old stuff before it becomes unobtainable. Not very impressive imo other than boron. Not far from a strong 20 grade.


There are non ash detergents in the oil. Molakule has said somewhere that calcium and magnesium are secondary detergents. I don't know how long that's been the case.

The same thing goes for new HD diesel oils with lower ZDDP. They didn't just lower the ZDDP, they're using stuff we can't see in UOAs to enhance the formulas.

Time will tell I guess, but I think all of these new oils are going to get the job done just fine. I'm putting my faith in low ZDDP HDDEO already and I will be using the new PCMOs (Dexos gen 2) without a worry.


Edited by dustyroads (11/13/17 11:09 PM)
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#4573367 - 11/13/17 11:23 PM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: dustyroads]
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Originally Posted By: dustyroads
they're using stuff we can't see in UOAs to enhance the formulas.

So, when will UOAs get improved to where they will start to show the unseen stuff?
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#4573382 - 11/14/17 12:09 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16]
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Why does virgin oil have both aluminum and iron in the fresh oil ?

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#4573387 - 11/14/17 12:24 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16]
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great option for 0w20 replacement in honda diluters!
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#4573495 - 11/14/17 07:33 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16]
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The new oils are all getting thinner and this PP is another example of that. I have not been a Pennzoil user but the 0w-20 grade of the new PP could be a nice choice for the Mazzy. A nice slug of boron to boot as well.

Thanks bigj_16 for sending in this sample.
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#4573497 - 11/14/17 07:35 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16]
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Thanks for the VOA!
As many of the research papers shared on this site concluded, in part, calcium levels directly effect LSPI. Oil companies agree and are adjusting in kind by significantly lowering those levels. Another significant difference is the higher flash point.


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#4573512 - 11/14/17 07:53 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: bigj_16]
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I find the viscosity @ 100C most interesting, considering the SOPUS QSUD 5w-30 D1G2 is 11.47 when Blackstone sampled it..


https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...Dur#Post4546402

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#4573532 - 11/14/17 08:21 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: wemay]
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Originally Posted By: wemay
Thanks for the VOA!
As many of the research papers shared on this site concluded, in part, calcium levels directly effect LSPI. Oil companies agree and are adjusting in kind by significantly lowering those levels. Another significant difference is the higher flash point.




I'm curious if the higher flash is to help with valve stem seepage, that some suggest could contribute to valve deposits.
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#4573580 - 11/14/17 08:55 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: webfors]
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Originally Posted By: webfors
Originally Posted By: wemay
Thanks for the VOA!
As many of the research papers shared on this site concluded, in part, calcium levels directly effect LSPI. Oil companies agree and are adjusting in kind by significantly lowering those levels. Another significant difference is the higher flash point.




I'm curious if the higher flash is to help with valve stem seepage, that some suggest could contribute to valve deposits.


Excellent point.
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#4573617 - 11/14/17 09:29 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 D1G2 [Re: wemay]
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wemay,

I just went over to Valvoline’s site to check their flash point but sadly they don’t list it. Any other sources for that info?
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