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High Mileage Change #4556049
10/27/17 08:17 AM
10/27/17 08:17 AM
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TN
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TN
Hello Everyone,

I am new to posting on a site like this. I do have a question as I have read conflicting thoughts on this issue. I currently have 2008 Toyota Sequoia 5.7L. It has only seen oil changes using M1 or M1EP since we have had it. It currently has 90K miles on it with no leaks at all. I have been reading that I should have changed to M1 High Mileage around the 75k mark. Should I change to M1 High Mileage now? Will something happen to my engine seals if I make the change? Just to get some "high fives", I do my own oil changes on this car (it was fun finding out that I had to buy a special oil filter cap to get the housing off). I thank you all for your insight in this matter.

Thanks.

Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN] #4556055
10/27/17 08:22 AM
10/27/17 08:22 AM
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NoVA
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It won't hurt but no reason to or not either. Use which ever is easier to find/cheaper IMO.


yup
Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN] #4556065
10/27/17 08:29 AM
10/27/17 08:29 AM
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Connecticut
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Connecticut
I though my 2002 was leak free up until a couple months ago when I was tracking down PS pump weepage. Then I saw some relatively "old looking" weepage coming out of the crank and lower timing chain cover. I'll be switching to HM oil in May. If you have absolutely zero leakage, there's no reason to switch to HM, regardless of mileage. Age of the seals is another issue which others could comment on.


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN] #4556068
10/27/17 08:31 AM
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Idaho
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Either way is fine but marketing does work well.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN] #4556071
10/27/17 08:37 AM
10/27/17 08:37 AM
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Indian Valley, Virginia
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For a different POV:

Switch to the HM oil. Better to prevent than try and put a band-aid on it once it starts leaking. I switched to HM at 75,000miles on my truck and now at 145k no leaks and no burning. I'm pretty happy with that considering I drive it like a race car.


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2007 Ram 1500; 3.7l; 6spd; 2wd; Valvoline 0w-20 HM; M1 Filter
Wife's 2003 VW Bug; 2.0l; auto; transmission has exploded
Wife's 2018 Mirage; 1.2l; CVT; Factory Fill
Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN] #4556079
10/27/17 08:43 AM
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Campbellsville, KY
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High-mileage oils aren't like stop-leak that just gums up the system to stop leaks - the additives actually help the seals. So, that being said, there's no reason not to switch to a HM oil and it'll only do your engine good even though I don't consider 90K "high mileage" and the 75K number on oil bottles is just an arbitrary marketing statement. If it doesn't leak or use a lot there's no express purpose to use a HM formulation but it won't hurt anything. My Cruze has 106K and with regular Valvoline Synpower there's only the slightest accumulation of gunk around the valve cover and zero consumption so I'm in no hurry to move up to the Maxlife full syn.


To quote a friend, "Synthetics, man."

'85 GMC C3500, 454, 132K
'82 Mercedes 300CD, OM617 turbo, 173K (totaled 2018, in rehab)
'85 Mercedes 300TD, OM617 turbo, 217K (wife's)
'67 Suburban, 350, 331K
Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN] #4556081
10/27/17 08:46 AM
10/27/17 08:46 AM
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The Midwest
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Don't use it unless its really needed.



Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Wanted: 2019 Ford Ranger
Re: High Mileage Change [Re: Sleepeyes] #4556126
10/27/17 09:25 AM
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NC
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NC
Originally Posted By: Sleepeyes
Switch to the HM oil. Better to prevent than try and put a band-aid on it once it starts leaking.


+1 You can use high mileage oil from day one in a brand new car and it won't hurt a thing.


'16 Frontier SV 4x4-PP/Nissan OEM
'08 CR-V EX AWD-Valvoline Syn MaxLife/Fram TG
'01 Civic EX-Valvoline Syn MaxLife/Fram UG
'00 Civic LX-PYB/Fram UG
Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN] #4556394
10/27/17 02:39 PM
10/27/17 02:39 PM
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I would use it personally.

Prevention is often better than cure.


16 S350d LWB 25k Mobil Super 3000 XE 5w30
17 Smart ForFour Auto 6.5k Mobil 1 0w40 FS
Re: High Mileage Change [Re: skyactiv] #4556397
10/27/17 02:43 PM
10/27/17 02:43 PM
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London, England
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Don't use it unless its really needed.



Not sure i really agree with that video.

Is he saying that HM Oil will make the seals bigger than they were originally designed to be?

Just because something is on YouTube doesn't automatically mean its factual


16 S350d LWB 25k Mobil Super 3000 XE 5w30
17 Smart ForFour Auto 6.5k Mobil 1 0w40 FS
Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN] #4556411
10/27/17 03:09 PM
10/27/17 03:09 PM
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Kendall, FL
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Absolutely fine for use in any vehicle. Almost all current HM oils hold current certifications/approvals. That Pat Goss video is a little dated.


18 Sportage 2.4L AWD: Mobil1 Annual Protection 5W20 + Mobil1-104A + e air WIX10335
13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: Pennzoil Platinum 10W30 + FRAM XG9688 + e air WIX49670

Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN] #4556463
10/27/17 04:47 PM
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southwest Mo.
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I used Pennzoil HM in my 98 chevy K3500 with the 7.4L to try and stop a couple of leaks that were actually dripping and it stopped the drips so I'm a believer in them. I also wouldn't hesitate to use a HM oil in a vehicle that doesn't leak.


2014 Mustang GT
1998 Chevy K3500
1998 Chevy K1500
(2) 1992 Cavaliers
1970 Monte Carlo
Re: High Mileage Change [Re: wemay] #4556473
10/27/17 04:59 PM
10/27/17 04:59 PM
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Indian Valley, Virginia
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Indian Valley, Virginia
Originally Posted By: wemay
Absolutely fine for use in any vehicle. Almost all current HM oils hold current certifications/approvals. That Pat Goss video is a little dated.


That and most chain stores price them the same as their non-HM counterparts. Valvoline 0w20 FS HM costs the exact same as Valvoline 0w20 FS. I have noticed that usually sales don't apply to HM but it isn't a hard fast rule. Even then it is a difference of a couple of bucks (and if that is going to make or break you then you have much bigger issues...).


~~
2007 Ram 1500; 3.7l; 6spd; 2wd; Valvoline 0w-20 HM; M1 Filter
Wife's 2003 VW Bug; 2.0l; auto; transmission has exploded
Wife's 2018 Mirage; 1.2l; CVT; Factory Fill
Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN] #4556566
10/27/17 06:11 PM
10/27/17 06:11 PM
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Michigan
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HM oils are not only good for leaks, but they often have a stronger additive package.


2003 Mercury Grand Marquis. PP HM 5w-30 and Fram Ultra
2008 Sebring Hardtop convertible. PP HM 5w-30 and Fram Ultra
2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT. Motul 7100 10w-40 and K&N
Re: High Mileage Change [Re: Sleepeyes] #4556593
10/27/17 06:22 PM
10/27/17 06:22 PM
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Wet side WA
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Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: Sleepeyes
Originally Posted By: wemay
Absolutely fine for use in any vehicle. Almost all current HM oils hold current certifications/approvals. That Pat Goss video is a little dated.


That and most chain stores price them the same as their non-HM counterparts. Valvoline 0w20 FS HM costs the exact same as Valvoline 0w20 FS. I have noticed that usually sales don't apply to HM but it isn't a hard fast rule. Even then it is a difference of a couple of bucks (and if that is going to make or break you then you have much bigger issues...).


I notice that Walmart has this one on Rollback.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-5W-30-High-Mileage-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-qt/17018131

I picked up a couple of these last spring.

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 10/27/17 06:24 PM.

2004 Corolla 126813
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
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