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#4556049 - 10/27/17 09:17 AM High Mileage Change
TXtoTN Offline


Registered: 10/26/17
Posts: 1
Loc: TN
Hello Everyone,

I am new to posting on a site like this. I do have a question as I have read conflicting thoughts on this issue. I currently have 2008 Toyota Sequoia 5.7L. It has only seen oil changes using M1 or M1EP since we have had it. It currently has 90K miles on it with no leaks at all. I have been reading that I should have changed to M1 High Mileage around the 75k mark. Should I change to M1 High Mileage now? Will something happen to my engine seals if I make the change? Just to get some "high fives", I do my own oil changes on this car (it was fun finding out that I had to buy a special oil filter cap to get the housing off). I thank you all for your insight in this matter.

Thanks.

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#4556055 - 10/27/17 09:22 AM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN]
Jimzz Offline


Registered: 10/03/14
Posts: 1145
Loc: NoVA
It won't hurt but no reason to or not either. Use which ever is easier to find/cheaper IMO.
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#4556065 - 10/27/17 09:29 AM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN]
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Registered: 09/23/15
Posts: 3815
Loc: Connecticut
I though my 2002 was leak free up until a couple months ago when I was tracking down PS pump weepage. Then I saw some relatively "old looking" weepage coming out of the crank and lower timing chain cover. I'll be switching to HM oil in May. If you have absolutely zero leakage, there's no reason to switch to HM, regardless of mileage. Age of the seals is another issue which others could comment on.
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#4556068 - 10/27/17 09:31 AM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN]
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Registered: 10/09/14
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Either way is fine but marketing does work well.
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#4556071 - 10/27/17 09:37 AM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN]
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Registered: 04/01/17
Posts: 17
Loc: Indian Valley, Virginia
For a different POV:

Switch to the HM oil. Better to prevent than try and put a band-aid on it once it starts leaking. I switched to HM at 75,000miles on my truck and now at 145k no leaks and no burning. I'm pretty happy with that considering I drive it like a race car.
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#4556079 - 10/27/17 09:43 AM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN]
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Registered: 04/10/16
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High-mileage oils aren't like stop-leak that just gums up the system to stop leaks - the additives actually help the seals. So, that being said, there's no reason not to switch to a HM oil and it'll only do your engine good even though I don't consider 90K "high mileage" and the 75K number on oil bottles is just an arbitrary marketing statement. If it doesn't leak or use a lot there's no express purpose to use a HM formulation but it won't hurt anything. My Cruze has 106K and with regular Valvoline Synpower there's only the slightest accumulation of gunk around the valve cover and zero consumption so I'm in no hurry to move up to the Maxlife full syn.
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#4556081 - 10/27/17 09:46 AM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN]
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Registered: 03/02/13
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Don't use it unless its really needed.

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#4556126 - 10/27/17 10:25 AM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: Sleepeyes]
fenixguy Offline


Registered: 02/08/17
Posts: 307
Loc: NC
Originally Posted By: Sleepeyes
Switch to the HM oil. Better to prevent than try and put a band-aid on it once it starts leaking.


+1 You can use high mileage oil from day one in a brand new car and it won't hurt a thing.
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#4556394 - 10/27/17 03:39 PM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN]
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Registered: 09/06/12
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I would use it personally.

Prevention is often better than cure.
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#4556397 - 10/27/17 03:43 PM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: skyactiv]
bigjl Offline


Registered: 09/06/12
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Loc: London, England
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Don't use it unless its really needed.



Not sure i really agree with that video.

Is he saying that HM Oil will make the seals bigger than they were originally designed to be?

Just because something is on YouTube doesn't automatically mean its factual
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#4556411 - 10/27/17 04:09 PM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN]
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Registered: 04/04/12
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Absolutely fine for use in any vehicle. Almost all current HM oils hold current certifications/approvals. That Pat Goss video is a little dated.
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#4556463 - 10/27/17 05:47 PM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN]
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Registered: 06/25/02
Posts: 1915
Loc: southwest Mo.
I used Pennzoil HM in my 98 chevy K3500 with the 7.4L to try and stop a couple of leaks that were actually dripping and it stopped the drips so I'm a believer in them. I also wouldn't hesitate to use a HM oil in a vehicle that doesn't leak.
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#4556473 - 10/27/17 05:59 PM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: wemay]
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Registered: 04/01/17
Posts: 17
Loc: Indian Valley, Virginia
Originally Posted By: wemay
Absolutely fine for use in any vehicle. Almost all current HM oils hold current certifications/approvals. That Pat Goss video is a little dated.


That and most chain stores price them the same as their non-HM counterparts. Valvoline 0w20 FS HM costs the exact same as Valvoline 0w20 FS. I have noticed that usually sales don't apply to HM but it isn't a hard fast rule. Even then it is a difference of a couple of bucks (and if that is going to make or break you then you have much bigger issues...).
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#4556566 - 10/27/17 07:11 PM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: TXtoTN]
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HM oils are not only good for leaks, but they often have a stronger additive package.
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#4556593 - 10/27/17 07:22 PM Re: High Mileage Change [Re: Sleepeyes]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2747
Loc: Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: Sleepeyes
Originally Posted By: wemay
Absolutely fine for use in any vehicle. Almost all current HM oils hold current certifications/approvals. That Pat Goss video is a little dated.


That and most chain stores price them the same as their non-HM counterparts. Valvoline 0w20 FS HM costs the exact same as Valvoline 0w20 FS. I have noticed that usually sales don't apply to HM but it isn't a hard fast rule. Even then it is a difference of a couple of bucks (and if that is going to make or break you then you have much bigger issues...).


I notice that Walmart has this one on Rollback.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-5W-30-High-Mileage-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-qt/17018131

I picked up a couple of these last spring.


Edited by JohnnyJohnson (10/27/17 07:24 PM)
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