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Help me fix my shed. #4549477
10/20/17 06:29 PM
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Last March during a windstorm my shed took what the insurance company and the manufacturer said was a fatal blow from a large pine. Total loss.




Insurance company sent people to clean things up, put a tarp over it. .



And there it sat. All summer. We called so many contractors I can't remember. Some said they were too busy. Some said it was totaled, need a new shed. Some gave use quotes, we said yes, they never returned. I will remember that when times turn bad again and they call begging for work. Today I decided I was sick of waiting, sick of looking at it. I've never built a structure, but compared to car stuff, looks pretty basic. And I watch the fixer upper flip shows haha. So.. I went at it today.








So I finished the day thinking its cut back enough to start putting things together.

What I don't know is..

Can I join the top plates together with a bracket and still maintain structural integrity?






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Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: LeakySeals] #4549483
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Oh no! shocked


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Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: LeakySeals] #4549490
10/20/17 06:36 PM
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Nice work.

Is that a contractor or family member helping to rebuild ?

Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: LeakySeals] #4549515
10/20/17 06:53 PM
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Anywhere you add new joists, and new sections of wall get some Simpson Strong Ties. I'ts just a shed it will be fine.


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Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: LeakySeals] #4549517
10/20/17 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Nice work.

Is that a contractor or family member helping to rebuild ?


The guy with the saw was from the Insurance company. The little furry guy was in shock when the tarp slid off the roof. So far, its just me. With a saws-all and a circular saw I never used before. And a claw and a hammer. Not sure what to do next. Order supplies I guess. Get a roof on it fast next rain is Tuesday. All the top plates were a complete board. To recreate that I'd have to take the whole roof off. I'm hoping I can recreate a complete top plate (or whatever its called) with a steel bracket and screws. Some type of sleeve, etc.


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Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: JBinTX30] #4549519
10/20/17 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: JBinTX30
Anywhere you add new joists, and new sections of wall get some Simpson Strong Ties. I'ts just a shed it will be fine.

Home depot has those? Would I use screws or nails? I don't have a nail gun.


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Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: LeakySeals] #4549537
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Cut your top plate so it exposes half of the wall stud. That way the new piece has support at the end. Looks good. That shed is not totaled. Just needs some attention.



Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: LeakySeals] #4549542
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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Home depot has those? Would I use screws or nails? I don't have a nail gun.


Yes they do, and you can use either. They even sell some Simpson branded screws and nails in same section as well.


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Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: LeakySeals] #4549552
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Nice job


Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: PimTac] #4549564
10/20/17 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Cut your top plate so it exposes half of the wall stud. That way the new piece has support at the end. Looks good. That shed is not totaled. Just needs some attention.

Can I just cut it off even then sister another wall stud with screws or nails??


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Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: JBinTX30] #4549568
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Originally Posted By: JBinTX30
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Home depot has those? Would I use screws or nails? I don't have a nail gun.


Yes they do, and you can use either. They even sell some Simpson branded screws and nails in same section as well.

Like this? or something else? http://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-Stron..._-202329565-_-N


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Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: LeakySeals] #4549572
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Yes you could use those to help reinforce the top plate sections together. They have all different ones for different uses, you would have to see what ones you would need.


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Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: LeakySeals] #4549585
10/20/17 07:41 PM
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My other thought was to sister the roof joist I cut the busted plywood off flush to. So the new roof plywood has its own surface. Is that ok?


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Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: LeakySeals] #4549635
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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Cut your top plate so it exposes half of the wall stud. That way the new piece has support at the end. Looks good. That shed is not totaled. Just needs some attention.

Can I just cut it off even then sister another wall stud with screws or nails??


Yep you can do that as well.



Re: Help me fix my shed. [Re: LeakySeals] #4549655
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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Originally Posted By: JBinTX30
Anywhere you add new joists, and new sections of wall get some Simpson Strong Ties. I'ts just a shed it will be fine.

Home depot has those? Would I use screws or nails? I don't have a nail gun.


Just read the brochure on the part you're using. Some of them specify a specific type of nail. I remember one bracket had a listing of 10 - 16d nails, which really meant ten 16 penny nails but the guy I used thought it meant anywhere from a 10 to 16 penny nails. Had to set him straight and the 16 penny nails were much harder to drive in with a hammer than 10 penny nails. Simpson strong ties also has a lot of material on the website you can download and it goes over all the various components you can use. For the rafter I would think a joist hanger would be better, but maybe that plate will be fine, it's just a shed, on some construction people just toe nail them in so it's probably better than nothing.

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