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Frankenblend ideas #4546568
10/17/17 06:27 PM
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53' Stude Offline OP
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Good evening BITOGERS smile

So with over 115 quarts now in "the stash" contemplating using some older MS5K 5w20 up with some other oils. SR5 got
Me thinking of the PEAK 15w40 with some QSUD 0w20. Maybe I'll mix some QS DEFY 5w20 and some Chevron Supreme 10w30. What say the BITOG faithful?


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: 53' Stude] #4546591
10/17/17 06:41 PM
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Go for it. With all of your C&P of the oil filters we'll get to see how well these Frankenbrew's clean the engines.


2015 Grand Caravan SXT Plus 5w-20 PPPP/Fram Ultra Filter
1997 Honda Civic CX 5w-30 Shell Conventional/Fram Ultra Filter
Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: 53' Stude] #4546618
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I'd mix the MS5K with the Peak as both are sodium oils (unless they make exceptions for the 40/50 grades). I'd keep the QS and Chevron together as they are non-Mg, non-Na oils.


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: 69GTX] #4546703
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I agree with 69GTX. Similar with similar additive packages.


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Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: 69GTX] #4546712
10/17/17 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: 69GTX
I'd mix the MS5K with the Peak as both are sodium oils (unless they make exceptions for the 40/50 grades). I'd keep the QS and Chevron together as they are non-Mg, non-Na oils.


How does one go about finding that info out?

I Would have just mixed based on the grades lol Pretty cool to find out other certain oils are more akin to others


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: Dumc87] #4546729
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Originally Posted By: Dumc87

How does one go about finding that info out?

I Would have just mixed based on the grades lol Pretty cool to find out other certain oils are more akin to others


Starting point is googling "pqia 20 grade coventional oils" or "synthetic 30 grade oils" and you'll get a list of all of the major oils with additive package breakdowns and other specs. If you can't find what you want there, you can always google "voa" or "uoa" for the oils you seek. Since many of those originated from Bitog, I often google "Bitog UOA for XXX."

Here's the list for the most recent HM oils tested


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: 53' Stude] #4546861
10/18/17 05:55 AM
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A long time ago, someone here had a garage full of high powered cars.

His favorite brew to run was a 50/50 mix of M1 0w20 AFE and M1 Racing 0w50. I run it every now again in my Accord, but it's the M1 Racing oil is so [censored] expensive.


2018 Chevy Silverado 3500HD 6.0L Gas: RLI 10w30
2010 Accord-LX K24: MaxLife 5w30 + Torco MPZ
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Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: 53' Stude] #4546950
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Don't mix. You end up with an unknown.


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Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: 53' Stude] #4546958
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Squeal boy....


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Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: 69GTX] #4546999
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Originally Posted By: 69GTX
Originally Posted By: Dumc87

How does one go about finding that info out?

I Would have just mixed based on the grades lol Pretty cool to find out other certain oils are more akin to others


Starting point is googling "pqia 20 grade coventional oils" or "synthetic 30 grade oils" and you'll get a list of all of the major oils with additive package breakdowns and other specs. If you can't find what you want there, you can always google "voa" or "uoa" for the oils you seek. Since many of those originated from Bitog, I often google "Bitog UOA for XXX."

Here's the list for the most recent HM oils tested


I still have a lot of reading to do!


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: 53' Stude] #4547081
10/18/17 10:23 AM
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N.H, U.S.A.
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Originally Posted By: car51
Good evening BITOGERS smile

So with over 115 quarts now in "the stash" contemplating using some older MS5K 5w20 up with some other oils. SR5 got
Me thinking of the PEAK 15w40 with some QSUD 0w20. Maybe I'll mix some QS DEFY 5w20 and some Chevron Supreme 10w30. What say the BITOG faithful?
That's mixing garbage with a good oil. I would use the defy with some QS green bottle dino only. QSUD with PP or QS dino.

A while back I topped off ?? with 10W40 Peak in the summer and that was terrible. The most I do these days is thin the Nissan Magnetec or QSUD 5w30 a tad with some 5w20 of same oil or thicken 5w20 with some 5w30 of same oil. No more than a 1/2 qt. I don't think Ill do any frankenbrew on the new Subaru - I will say after the dealer oil change the engine went from silent and smooth to VERY noisy and clattery. I never like Subaru Idemitsu and Blue frams are unknown but surely no OE Toyo Roki

Last edited by ARCOgraphite; 10/18/17 10:24 AM.

2014 Nissan Rogue S CVT, OC#10 47272mi-QSUD10W30+5w20 Toughguard Filter; '17 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#2 ?? mi-SOA/Idemitsu 0w20 + SOA Filter
Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: 53' Stude] #4547092
10/18/17 10:35 AM
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Kalifornia Kollective
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A true Halloween franken brew is just one of each to the full mark on the dip stick. No matching additive packages laugh


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: 53' Stude] #4548468
10/19/17 03:19 PM
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Well, I made a blend of M1 5w30 HM SL rated with some QSUD 0w20 SN

AND a blend with some SL rated M1 HM 5w20 and some M1 0w40 SM. Both blends are 50/50%

Second blend will go in the Camry next OCI smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: 53' Stude] #4548483
10/19/17 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: car51


Second blend will go in the Camry next OCI smile


Well if they don't spontaneously combust. trolling hooked

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 10/19/17 03:36 PM.

2004 Corolla 126649
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Frankenblend ideas [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4548487
10/19/17 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted By: car51


Second blend will go in the Camry next OCI smile


Well if they don't spontaneously combust. trolling hooked


Good one smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
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