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#4545985 - 10/17/17 09:06 AM Morning philosophy...
Alex_V Offline


Registered: 04/10/16
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Loc: Campbellsville, KY
Where lies the line between varnish and sludge?


'02 Honda F23A1, 202K, maintenance decent but unknown.
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#4545986 - 10/17/17 09:09 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: Alex_V]
Quattro Pete Offline


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Originally Posted By: Alex_V
Where lies the line between varnish and sludge?

Depending on how you look at it, it's either a little bit of sludge or a ton of varnish. smile

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#4545989 - 10/17/17 09:11 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Alex_V
Where lies the line between varnish and sludge?

Depending on how you look at it, it's either a little bit of sludge or a ton of varnish. smile



The unstoppable sludge versus the immovable varnish. Or vice versa

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#4545993 - 10/17/17 09:13 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: Alex_V]
StevieC Offline


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A great candidate to test flush products. LOL
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#4546003 - 10/17/17 09:20 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: Alex_V]
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Registered: 04/10/16
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My perspective, as well.

VML is all the flush she'll get, along with a new HG, timing belt, and ignition tune-up. If your call has a slow coolant leak... just fix it.
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#4546021 - 10/17/17 09:42 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: Alex_V]
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15-year-old Honda, about 13,500 miles a year...doing pretty well I'd say. Whatever oil or oils were used, they did not cause engine failure...Honda engineering still doing well.
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#4546024 - 10/17/17 09:43 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: Alex_V]
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Wish my pics to my 01 Civic at 168k miles in this thread still active (thanks PB) as similar valvetrain design to topic.

I'll say though I've seen worse (not much) IMO topic engine is sludged. As comparison mine looked very similar to the pic below from another Civic in a youtube about how to adjust valves.


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#4546046 - 10/17/17 10:09 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: Sayjac]
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Originally Posted By: Sayjac
Wish my pics to my 01 Civic at 168k miles in this thread still active (thanks PB) as similar valvetrain design to topic.

I'll say though I've seen worse (not much) IMO topic engine is sludged. As comparison mine looked very similar to the pic below from another Civic in a youtube about how to adjust valves.

That' a clean engine.

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#4546059 - 10/17/17 10:21 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: StevieC]
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Registered: 10/11/02
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Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: StevieC
A great candidate to test flush products. LOL


I concur!

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#4546063 - 10/17/17 10:24 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: Drew99GT]
OhOMG Offline


Registered: 09/11/17
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Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: StevieC
A great candidate to test flush products. LOL


I concur!


1 quart diesel fuel.. +2

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#4546084 - 10/17/17 10:41 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: Alex_V]
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 19138
Loc: Iowegia - USA
Does the crankshaft turn? smile

Looks like a good candidate for LCD's LC20. Pour it all over the head, let it soak overnight, scrub, re-soak, scrub.

Also, do a piston soak with this stuff using about 4 oz. per cylinder.

I brought a 454 back to life this way after a friend's daughter let the oil level get too low in his Burb. shocked2

The only thing we had to replace was the valve stem seals. We let the hydraulic lifters soak for about three days and they worked fine.


Edited by MolaKule (10/17/17 10:43 AM)

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#4546088 - 10/17/17 10:43 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: Alex_V]
Alex_V Offline


Registered: 04/10/16
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Any worse and I'd deem it out-and-out sludge. But, true, not close to the fail point yet - just not doing the car or the owner's wallet any favors. It'll have to run better after I get done with it, based on the deposits on these pistons. VTEC gasket screen is gummed up pretty good, too. Regular gas, most likely dino oil, lots of city driving - I wouldn't expect much better.
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#4546089 - 10/17/17 10:43 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: MolaKule]
OhOMG Offline


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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Does the crankshaft turn? smile

Looks like a good candidate for LCD's LC20. Pour it all over the head, let it soak overnight, scrub, re-soak, scrub.

I brought a 454 back to life this way after a friend's daughter let the oil level get too low in his Burb. shocked2

The only thing we had to replace was the valve stem seals. We let the hydraulic lifters soak for about three days and they worked fine.


If it turns, and no one hears it.. Does it make a sound?

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#4546139 - 10/17/17 11:22 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: Alex_V]
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 7485
Loc: S California
Interesting article.

LINK

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#4546144 - 10/17/17 11:24 AM Re: Morning philosophy... [Re: Alex_V]
mightymousetech Offline


Registered: 04/03/17
Posts: 1480
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: Alex_V


...maintenance decent...


I would debate that.
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